Police earning the hate

[davidc4430]

Parking fines issued by the hundreds on residential streets by NSW Police forces backflip

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-07/nsw-police-backflip-over-hundreds-of-parking-fines/10785432

come on police, be out fighting crime, not collecting easy revenue.

[shoppingbag*]

This is only the tip of the iceberg. You are going to see a lot more of this.  A lot of the housing estates have very narrow streets. There have been many complaints in areas near me. One area wanted a bus service and couldn't have it because of narrow streets. I noticed this trend in the late eighties. Blocks of land are getting smaller, and the roads accessing them also getting narrower and narrower. Developers and Councils, as well as Governments have a lot to answer for. There will be deaths as a result, only a matter of time, when the ambulance or fire brigade can't get through.

[springyzone]

You are 100% right, shopping bag.

I read some time ago that the fire brigade was concerned about narrow roads in a lot of the new estates as some areas may be inaccessible to emergency vehicles.

I am in Vic & what I have noticed is blocks are tiny, house regulations have obviously changed and what you commonly see now are houses where spouting actually overlaps. My son in law is a bricklayer & commented that building some homes on their boundary is difficult if the house next door is up first. How safe all this is in the case of fire etc, well, I have my doubts.

I also think that there is the issue of noise. Councils might say we need to get more people into the space available but modern properties in the outer suburbs are made for families & there is precious little privacy in some cases.

As for the police issuing parking tickets. It should not have to happen & I doubt the police officers themselves are thrilled to have to do it but you can bet they are following orders. The fact is though that if parked cars are making things dangerous, they may have to step in. But I think council should be told that-in the long term-they have to employ more parking officers to deal with the situation. It's not a police area & the council set the scene by approving such  narrow streets so they should have to deal with the consequences.

[davidc4430]

its greed, all up the chain.

developer buys a piece of land and works out the maximum number of houses he can fit into it, and councils go along with it because more homes more rates.

so its minimum size house blocks, minimum footpaths (if any) and minimum road widths.

and charge a motza for a postage stamp of dirt.

then build with walls on the boundry left and right and a 2 metres to the back fence. enough to string a clothes line.

[go-tazz]

The road may be a bit narrow but they aren't parking next to the road.

Maybe they got the fines because they are parking up to 5 metres from the road,(as in 2 of the photos).

This photo shows a guy taking a photo from his front fence which is a good distance from the road and there

are no cars near where the people are so most likely parked close to the houses on that side.

The second picture shows a 5 metre nature strip and instead of parking off the road the residents have parked

right next to their houses,(so they are wrecking the nature strip because they are to lazy to walk or do the

right thing and park closer to the road).

IMHO the council should send those a letter to tell them to park correctly or face a fine,(probably wont happen

and when the nature strip is just dust they'll want the council to spend money to fix something they wrecked),

Notice none of the photos actually show two cars on the roads to show how "narrow" the roads are,(the only

one that does is the above photo which shows a car in the distance with what looks like a road that's plenty

wide enough for 2 cars to pass and that leaves plenty of space NEXT to the road for parking).

[lyndal1838]

Tazz, those photos are from a report on ACA the other night.   They are not really a fair representation of the whole problem.

Most of the roads had no curbing and guttering and the cars were parked nose in to the properties.   ACA did an experiment and had cars parked exactly according to the rules on both sides of the road.  They then measured the space available for traffic.....even a small car could not drive down the road between the parked cars.

The residents have been asking for road widening or some other parking facilities for years and are met with a stoney silence.  There are no curbs or gutters and no footpaths.

The local council and police are aware of the problems and choose to turn a blind eye.   The fines were all issued by a Highway Patrol Officer from out of the area and the local police were very annoyed by it.

[shoppingbag*]

You are obviously unaware of and have not seen the issues first hand.

[shoppingbag*]

To Tazz, would you be happy living here if your loved one needed an ambulance or your house was on fire?

[go-tazz]

The link was posted and I replied to the link only,(not to something that I've not seen),

In future if you want replies to something that no one has posted about or linked to please keep in mind that

I'm not a mind reader and I don't watch TV.

The issues in the link clearly shows residents with fines in their hands and that they were part of the "issue"

and they do not park anywhere near the road,

[go-tazz]

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@shoppingbag* wrote:

To Tazz, would you be happy living here if your loved one needed an ambulance or your house was on fire?

Next time you want to have a "go" don't post something that wasn't available before I made my comments,

I've lived in a street similar to that and we used to partially park on the road and the kerb which left plenty of

room for a truck to drive through,(none of those cars need to fully park on the nature strip).

Obvioulsy the houses were built first as surely you wouldn't buy a house in a street that's to narrow and then

blame the council for not parking on your own property.