Pub Test: Would you allow your OH to donate sperm...

[i-need-a-martini]

...the old fashioned way if your best friend needed her eggs fertilised?

No turkey baster. No clinics. 

This was the topic of discussion amongst a group of friends earlier in the night. One in our group is a lesbian longing for a child with her partner. Surprisingly, quite a few women offered to loan out their husbands.

Would you?

[*elizabeths-mum*]

Not with his family jewels. 😄

[*mrgrizz*]

ask a gay man.............he would hate every minute

[i-need-a-martini]

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@bright.ton42 wrote:

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That's a bit unusual  isn't it?  I mean why would she prefer that to the 'turkey baster'.  Most lesbians I know wouldn't  want to 

sleep with a man. - particularly having the partner look on.    

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Not that unusual.

Ever met a lesbian who got pregnant with a turkey baster? It's a bit of a myth.

And she figured she could go to a clinic but aside from the expense, she didn't want to inconvenience anyone. Plus the success rate for artificial insemination is quite low so she would have to go the next step and have egg insemination  which is quite intrusive.

She figures that she would just show up at donors house every day for a week, do the business, have a cup of tea and say "see you same time tomorrow.". 

[*elizabeths-mum*]

Actually every second day gives a higher rate of success.

[*elizabeths-mum*]

The Turkey Baster Method is the most common way of artificial insemination to get pregnant and have an artificial insemination at home. More often than not you do NOT actually use a turkey baster but a disposable syringe.

You need the following supplies for an artificial insemination at home with a turkey baster:

Needleless syringe or oral medicine syringe (instead of the turkey baster)
Collection cup, baggy or condom
(Optional) Saline without additives or preservatives
(Optional) Tube to attach to syringe
(Optional) Mild germicidal soap
You can ask your doctor for a needleless syringe or you can buy an oral medicine syringe at just about any drugstore or in Wal*Mart near the children's thermometers. Buy the syringe with a plunger, not a bulb end (not the mini turkey baster!). The syringes work pretty much the same way. One that is maybe 4 inches long, or longer, is probably best. The oral medicine syringes have about a half inch narrow tip on the end. You can attach a catheter (thin tube) to either kind of syringe but you don't need to and it may waste more of the **bleep** to use one.

a) Take a clean or sterile glass or plastic cup, baggy, or collection condom and have the male ejaculate into it. Do NOT use a regular condom because it may contain chemicals that kill sperms. There are special collection condoms for this purpose which do not have sperm-killing chemicals.

You'll probably have better luck getting the **bleep** out of a cup since you could suck the baggy or condom up to the syringe and block the opening, but you may get a larger sample with the baggy or the special collection condom. You can use a tiny bit of saline, without additives/preservatives, to help get as much sperm as possible into the syringe, but you don't need to worry too much about leaving a little behind. If you are using frozen sperm, you need to ask the sperm bank for directions on thawing.

- See more at: http://www.babymed.com/home-artificial-insemination-get-pregnant-turkey-baster-method#sthash.AJDwgnS...

[i-need-a-martini]

I've heard countless 'turkey baster' stories and they aren't pretty lol. And never heard of a success except the Boris Becker incident a few years back. If you think about the logistics a little...

[*elizabeths-mum*]

There was a doco on the ABC recently and the surrogate using a syringe had an immediate success. Other online sites indicate that it doesn't have a much different success rate from standard procedure in a healthy fertile woman. Certainly higher rates than our roughly 2000 nookies for 3 live births over 9 years. 😄

If your friend is insisting the only way is to have a deposited freshly, I'd be sending her off to do some research.

[i-need-a-martini]

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@*elizabeths-mum* wrote:
There was a doco on the ABC recently and the surrogate using a syringe had an immediate success. Other online sites indicate that it doesn't have a much different success rate from standard procedure in a healthy fertile woman. Certainly higher rates than our roughly 2000 nookies for 3 live births over 9 years. 😄

If your friend is insisting the only way is to have a deposited freshly, I'd be sending her off to do some research.

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I suspect that any intelligent lesbian couple wanting a baby has done plenty of research. 

I said to think about the logistics. One immediately spring to mind - you really need a doctor or nurse to do the insemination. It's not as easy as sticking a syringe up and hoping the little blighters will swim like crazy. There is a lot of prep and then the syring has to be positioned fairly strategically at the point of entry to the cervix. 

If you read the academic papers (rather than the anecdotal forum responses), the chances of becoming pregnant with insemination even under ideal clinical circumstances is fairly low. The average DIY insemination is even lower.

Her point is that natural insemination has the greatest chance of success over a full period of ovulation.

[i-need-a-martini]

According to Wiki (and I am only using them as a source cause I am about to pop out for a few hours so don't have time to give you some more reputable sources), the success rate (depended on many factors) is averaged at 10-15%. Another surce through a PubMed study says it is close 9% success rate.

Anyway, not high...

[*elizabeths-mum*]

When I think about the logistics, I think a 4 inch tube containing fresh liquid containing sperm (I'd use the correct term but it isn't allowed) inserted in the correct entrance and the contents explosively expelled directly into the business area wouldn't be much different from the real thing, give or take an inch or two...

The doco had a late teen early 20 yo doing exactly that. Opened her fly and put the syringe in place just like you might put deodorant on after putting your shirt on. It didn't look too scientific.