Pyne tackles 'bias' in classrooms with national curriculum review

nero_bolt
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ABOUT TIME... The lefties and the greens will hate this and the left teachers and unions will hate it as well..... GOOD hope they do as its about time the left and labor and the unions and teachers stoped brain washing our children with their twisted left views and we got back to values and teaching our kids properly...... 

 

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THE Abbott government has moved to reshape school education by appointing strong critics of the national curriculum to review what children are taught, amid fears a "cultural Left" agenda is failing students.

 

The Education Minister, Christopher Pyne, is seeking a blueprint by mid-year to overhaul the curriculum, warning that the rise of "remedial" classes at universities proves the depths of the problem in Australian classrooms.

 

Vowing to restore an "orthodox" curriculum, Mr Pyne named author and former teacher Kevin Donnelly and business professor Ken Wiltshire this morning to lead the review.

 

 

The appointments clear the way for reforms that could expunge parts of the history syllabus that Tony Abbott has blasted for favouring Labor and the unions but glossing over the work of Coalition prime ministers.

 

Mr Donnelly is a fierce critic of the "relativism" in the teaching program, while Professor Wiltshire has rejected the emphasis on "competencies" and urged a sharper focus on knowledge and assessment.

 

The looming changes could spark another "culture war", given past brawls, including John Howard's criticism in 2007 of the "shameful" neglect of Australian history and the disputes over Julia Gillard's introduction of the national curriculum in 2010.

 

Writing in The Australian today, Mr Pyne declares that parents want a curriculum that is "free of partisan bias" and deals with real-world issues.

 

Concerns about the teaching program have deepened in recent years as the nation lost ground in global assessments of reading, maths and science, putting Australian students behind their counterparts in Vietnam, Poland and Estonia.  (all under Julia and labor and the billions they threw at the system only to fail) 

 

 

Canberra and the states agreed on changes to the curriculum last year but the new review throws open the debate to the public, allowing for wider consultation and possibly the holding of open hearings.

 

Mr Pyne said he expected the states to accept the need for change, given signs of the problems with the current curriculum

 

I think the fact that universities are teaching maths and English remedial courses is a symptom of an education system that isn't meeting the needs of students who go on to university, and that's something the reviewers will be taking a close look at," Mr Pyne said. "The term 'remedial' implies a remedy for a problem and one of the priorities for all governments should be removing the problem."

 

 

A key complaint about the curriculum is its emphasis on seven "general capabilities" rather than essential knowledge in fields such as maths, English and history.

 

Former History Teachers Association president Paul Kiem has warned that this led to a "tick a box" approach to teaching a subject. A similar view was put by NSW Board of Studies president Tom Alegounarias.

 

Mr Donnelly, a regular contributor to The Australian, has warned against a "subjective" view of culture that neglects the Judeo-Christian values at the core of Australian institutions.

 

He has also savaged a civics curriculum that teaches that "citizenship means different things to different people at different times", rather than preparing students for an understanding of their responsibilities. "The civics curriculum argues in favour of a postmodern, deconstructed definition of citizenship," he wrote last year.

 

"The flaws are manifest. What right do Australians have to expect migrants to accept our laws, institutions and way of life?

 

"Such a subjective view of citizenship allows Islamic fundamentalists to justify mistreating women and carrying out jihad against non-believers."

 

Mandating a "cultural left national curriculum" would fail students, he wrote.

 

Professor Wiltshire branded the curriculum a "failure" last January - prior to changes that were put in place last year.

 

"A school curriculum should be based on a set of values, yet it is almost impossible to determine what values have been explicitly used to design the proposed model," he wrote of the changes under the Gillard government.

 

"Curriculum should also be knowledge-based, yet we are faced with an experiment that focuses on process or competencies."

Professor Wiltshire also attacked the "astounding devaluation of the book" in modern teaching.

 

In his outline of the changes, Mr Pyne points to complaints that history classes are not recognising the legacy of Western civilisation and not giving enough prominence to big events in Australian history such as Anzac Day.

 

Mr Pyne told The Australian yesterday he "most definitely" stood by his past criticisms of the curriculum, including its neglect of business and commerce in the country's history.

 

"I believe the curriculum should be orthodox and should tell students about where we've come from and why we are the country we are today, so we can shape our future appropriately," he said.

 

He said he supported the "unvarnished truth" in the curriculum on everything from the treatment of indigenous Australians to political history. "There is little place in a curriculum for elevating relativism over the truth."

 

Deals with the states are a key factor in the plan after The Australian reported last month that some state education ministers had challenged Mr Pyne over his "command-and-control" approach to the teaching program.

 

The ministerial talks were held amid the heated debate over the government's shifting position on a $1.2 billion outlay on the Gonski education reforms.

 

Mr Pyne told The Australian there was a "moral suasion" to improving the teaching program.

 

"The states, I am sure, would want to implement the best curriculum without a financial incentive to do so," he said.

 

The current curriculum has three priorities across subjects - indigenous culture, Asia and sustainability - but Mr Pyne questioned their merits.

 

"It's difficult to see in maths and science how those three themes are necessarily relevant," he said in an interview. "Themes should not be elevated above a robust curriculum."

 

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/pyne-tackles-bias-in-classrooms-with-national-curri...

 

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oh, and leartning to walk in a line to the library, has very little to do with the safety of the child. Think about what it is really teaching them... what they are learning from this.

 

"if I follow the person in front of me in an orderly manner, as the person in authority tells me I have to, then I will be safe".

 

Now contrast that with what happened during the Industrial Revolution.

 

Contrast that with how people such as Hitler gained power. (didn't mean to Godwin, but I can't spell the name of the Burmese President LOL)


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School is cool. I/we haven't had any problems what so ever with schools/educations system. So it is not failing ALL.

 

 

Haven't you ever wondered why we have to insure our posessions at different points in time, depending on what the purchase is? Transpose that across all areas of life.

 

No, never. What has that got to do specifically with school curriuculum?

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My daugter have been taught the same history lesson for the last 3 years running.

 

My son got a C in history last year yet his history book had one page of work in it. When i questioned it i was told they didnt have time to teach mush history last year.

 

My daughter was supposed to be taught personal development in her last year of primary school last year. It was supposed to be 8 lessons over 8 weeks. They had 3 lessons. The last lesson was supposed to be the lesson about reproduction. I rang the school in the last week and asked if that lesson was going to happen and was told No. They ran out of time. But the teacher sent the reproduction dvd home with my daughter so she could watch it over the holidays. Weve watched it. I think it was from the 1970's.

Shame none of the other kids in the year got to see it though

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@lakeland27 wrote:

@crikey*mate wrote:

@lakeland27 wrote:

 we are already too inward-looking. there's little to be learned from that. i'm sure a encyclopedic knowledge of the history of Burundi will do little for a persons job prospects, saturation of the corriculum with topics like Anzac's is equally useless in the job market.

they already know this stuff.


you're missing my point, it's not the facts, it's the lessons derived from those facts

 

"thery already know that" what do they know, and how do they know it?

 

 


well in the case of the two i have at school these topics have been done to death. i have no objection to that, but i'd prefer a broader study of historical events . i object to taking up more time re-hashing this stuff i feel could be put to better use.


I agree with that,

 

But due to time constraints on the school day, it has to be relevant to the culture of the kids. Then maybe as an elective, they branch out? But we have to at least get the basics in.

 

(My eldest says the same about primary science. He said every year they learned about the lifecycle of a butterfly and the planets LOL - he whinged for ages about that, that they repeated the same stuff every single year, just in case he forgiot the last time they taught it LOL)

 

But when a kid doesn't know the basics (and school "should" be making sure they do) then they have no hope of building on that, so they repeat the foundational stuff over and over and over again....

 

 

Lakes, you also have to remember, the governement has to assume that a lot of things aren't taught in the home. Sheesh, my klids even have Personal Development lessons including menstuation etc... so they assume that some kids don't get taught this..

 

same as Home Ec - the cooking and sewing, that's not taught so kids learn fashion design and how to be a chef, it's taught so they can learn how to cook themselves a meal and sew on a button.


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History is NOT about facts, it is about Socialization of a person far beyond that communicative element, into society,

 

When you sit a History exam, you can just waffle on then, no facts required: no date this war started, no date that famine ended?

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I don't think anyone is expecting schools to teach history students about every country in the world's history. There is no need to stick strictly to Western history though, some Eastern history could also be taught.

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Sheesh, my klids even have Personal Development lessons including menstuation etc... so they assume that some kids don't get taught this..

 

same as Home Ec - the cooking and sewing, that's not taught so kids learn fashion design and how to be a chef, it's taught so they can learn how to cook themselves a meal and sew on a button.

 

 


Personal Development and Home Ec have been being taught for years and years. I certainly had those classes when i was in school but was still taught plenty of English, Maths, History Science etc.

 

My daughter completed year 7 last year (Yr 7 is still in Primary school here in SA). I couldnt believe how many pictures had had to be drawn through out her books and fully coloured in. She had a whole book where each page had each letter of the alphabet and then words starting with that letter eg, a page full of 'A's and words starting with A and then pictures of the A words.

**bleep**? That is year 3 and 4 work imo. Not Yr 7. What a waste of time when there are so many more important things she should of been taught

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@lakeland27 wrote:

@crikey*mate wrote:

@lakeland27 wrote:

 we are already too inward-looking. there's little to be learned from that. i'm sure a encyclopedic knowledge of the history of Burundi will do little for a persons job prospects, saturation of the corriculum with topics like Anzac's is equally useless in the job market.

they already know this stuff.


you're missing my point, it's not the facts, it's the lessons derived from those facts

 

"thery already know that" what do they know, and how do they know it?

 

 


well in the case of the two i have at school these topics have been done to death. i have no objection to that, but i'd prefer a broader study of historical events . i object to taking up more time re-hashing this stuff i feel could be put to better use.


With regard to the ANZAC history, a good start would be to put the involvement of Australian and New Zealand troops into perspective - most of the kids I know think we fought that battle all on our own. 

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@am*3 wrote:

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An education is provided to prepare students for the future.. for employment mostly.  We are living in 2014 now, not the 1950's.


and don't you prepare for your future by evaluating experiences from the past?

 

"last time it rained, I didn't close my window, so my bed got wet. Next time, I will remember to close the window.

 

 


School should teach the majority of students read, write, learn maths, learning to play with others etc.. learning to close you window when it rains has nothing to do with being employable. A person could learn that without ever going to school.


You are not considering the other two purposes of schooling.

 

the window was a simplified example of how we learn from the past. I was not suggesting that a child needed to be taught that at school.

 

I can't make it much simpler than that.

 

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The reason that Aborigines are slowly gaining access to the education that the dominant culture believes they should have is because "somebody" learned why they weren't able to access that eeducation, because somebody learned "how" their values and beliefs were formed.

 

 

anyway, you're not understanding that history is the foundation for everything that you say kids should learn at school, so there is no point me ciontinuing.

 

It's a moot point anyway, all I know is that the current curriculum and those that came before it are ineffective. And I posit that even these proposed changes will produce the same results, because still the real issues have not been addressed, and that is the social issues which affect a kid before they even get to school and for the time they are not at school. All this impacts on what a kid can and does learn and how they process the information they are given/have access to.

 

But every society needs indepth understanding iof it's history. Cos they're the foundations of life itself/


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Those remedial English classes at Uni, are most likely used by more international/foreign Uni students who come to Aust to study than students who went to school in Aust.  anyway.

Extensive studying of ANZAC Day and Aust history isn't going to improve literacy & maths skills (both of which Pyne refers to)

anyway.

 

 

 

Christopher Pyne: curriculum must focus on Anzac Day and western history - that is the issue and imo it is a insular, dumb idea.

 

Asia is a lot closer to Australia than Northern Europe.


just out of curiosity, what does Asia's proximity have to do with the history that makes us Australian and determines who we are as people and a nation? How does that give us our identity? How does that reveal how our values and beliefs are formed?


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