Pyne tackles 'bias' in classrooms with national curriculum review

nero_bolt
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ABOUT TIME... The lefties and the greens will hate this and the left teachers and unions will hate it as well..... GOOD hope they do as its about time the left and labor and the unions and teachers stoped brain washing our children with their twisted left views and we got back to values and teaching our kids properly...... 

 

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THE Abbott government has moved to reshape school education by appointing strong critics of the national curriculum to review what children are taught, amid fears a "cultural Left" agenda is failing students.

 

The Education Minister, Christopher Pyne, is seeking a blueprint by mid-year to overhaul the curriculum, warning that the rise of "remedial" classes at universities proves the depths of the problem in Australian classrooms.

 

Vowing to restore an "orthodox" curriculum, Mr Pyne named author and former teacher Kevin Donnelly and business professor Ken Wiltshire this morning to lead the review.

 

 

The appointments clear the way for reforms that could expunge parts of the history syllabus that Tony Abbott has blasted for favouring Labor and the unions but glossing over the work of Coalition prime ministers.

 

Mr Donnelly is a fierce critic of the "relativism" in the teaching program, while Professor Wiltshire has rejected the emphasis on "competencies" and urged a sharper focus on knowledge and assessment.

 

The looming changes could spark another "culture war", given past brawls, including John Howard's criticism in 2007 of the "shameful" neglect of Australian history and the disputes over Julia Gillard's introduction of the national curriculum in 2010.

 

Writing in The Australian today, Mr Pyne declares that parents want a curriculum that is "free of partisan bias" and deals with real-world issues.

 

Concerns about the teaching program have deepened in recent years as the nation lost ground in global assessments of reading, maths and science, putting Australian students behind their counterparts in Vietnam, Poland and Estonia.  (all under Julia and labor and the billions they threw at the system only to fail) 

 

 

Canberra and the states agreed on changes to the curriculum last year but the new review throws open the debate to the public, allowing for wider consultation and possibly the holding of open hearings.

 

Mr Pyne said he expected the states to accept the need for change, given signs of the problems with the current curriculum

 

I think the fact that universities are teaching maths and English remedial courses is a symptom of an education system that isn't meeting the needs of students who go on to university, and that's something the reviewers will be taking a close look at," Mr Pyne said. "The term 'remedial' implies a remedy for a problem and one of the priorities for all governments should be removing the problem."

 

 

A key complaint about the curriculum is its emphasis on seven "general capabilities" rather than essential knowledge in fields such as maths, English and history.

 

Former History Teachers Association president Paul Kiem has warned that this led to a "tick a box" approach to teaching a subject. A similar view was put by NSW Board of Studies president Tom Alegounarias.

 

Mr Donnelly, a regular contributor to The Australian, has warned against a "subjective" view of culture that neglects the Judeo-Christian values at the core of Australian institutions.

 

He has also savaged a civics curriculum that teaches that "citizenship means different things to different people at different times", rather than preparing students for an understanding of their responsibilities. "The civics curriculum argues in favour of a postmodern, deconstructed definition of citizenship," he wrote last year.

 

"The flaws are manifest. What right do Australians have to expect migrants to accept our laws, institutions and way of life?

 

"Such a subjective view of citizenship allows Islamic fundamentalists to justify mistreating women and carrying out jihad against non-believers."

 

Mandating a "cultural left national curriculum" would fail students, he wrote.

 

Professor Wiltshire branded the curriculum a "failure" last January - prior to changes that were put in place last year.

 

"A school curriculum should be based on a set of values, yet it is almost impossible to determine what values have been explicitly used to design the proposed model," he wrote of the changes under the Gillard government.

 

"Curriculum should also be knowledge-based, yet we are faced with an experiment that focuses on process or competencies."

Professor Wiltshire also attacked the "astounding devaluation of the book" in modern teaching.

 

In his outline of the changes, Mr Pyne points to complaints that history classes are not recognising the legacy of Western civilisation and not giving enough prominence to big events in Australian history such as Anzac Day.

 

Mr Pyne told The Australian yesterday he "most definitely" stood by his past criticisms of the curriculum, including its neglect of business and commerce in the country's history.

 

"I believe the curriculum should be orthodox and should tell students about where we've come from and why we are the country we are today, so we can shape our future appropriately," he said.

 

He said he supported the "unvarnished truth" in the curriculum on everything from the treatment of indigenous Australians to political history. "There is little place in a curriculum for elevating relativism over the truth."

 

Deals with the states are a key factor in the plan after The Australian reported last month that some state education ministers had challenged Mr Pyne over his "command-and-control" approach to the teaching program.

 

The ministerial talks were held amid the heated debate over the government's shifting position on a $1.2 billion outlay on the Gonski education reforms.

 

Mr Pyne told The Australian there was a "moral suasion" to improving the teaching program.

 

"The states, I am sure, would want to implement the best curriculum without a financial incentive to do so," he said.

 

The current curriculum has three priorities across subjects - indigenous culture, Asia and sustainability - but Mr Pyne questioned their merits.

 

"It's difficult to see in maths and science how those three themes are necessarily relevant," he said in an interview. "Themes should not be elevated above a robust curriculum."

 

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/pyne-tackles-bias-in-classrooms-with-national-curri...

 

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@freakiness wrote:

History is taught.  It's quite bizarre to make out that it isn't.


Yes it is bizarre.

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@crikey*mate wrote:

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

@lakeland27 wrote:

@crikey*mate wrote:

@lakeland27 wrote:

 we are already too inward-looking. there's little to be learned from that. i'm sure a encyclopedic knowledge of the history of Burundi will do little for a persons job prospects, saturation of the corriculum with topics like Anzac's is equally useless in the job market.

they already know this stuff.


you're missing my point, it's not the facts, it's the lessons derived from those facts

 

"thery already know that" what do they know, and how do they know it?

 

 


well in the case of the two i have at school these topics have been done to death. i have no objection to that, but i'd prefer a broader study of historical events . i object to taking up more time re-hashing this stuff i feel could be put to better use.


With regard to the ANZAC history, a good start would be to put the involvement of Australian and New Zealand troops into perspective - most of the kids I know think we fought that battle all on our own. 


She Elel, you're into history and historical novels (from memory), May I ask how significant that you believe Australian and European History is in the development of "modern society"?


I have always been fascinated by history and I like to imagine what life would have been like for the people who actually lived through major historical events. I also, sadly, see theall too frequent  parrallels between things that happened in the past and things that are happening now. The one thing that appears to be certain is that we don't learn from our mistakes.

 

Obviously our culture has been shaped by our history, but the days when Australia was an exclusively Anglo/Celtic culture are long gone. Every successive wave of migrants - the Irish, who were going to force us into subservience to the Pope, the Yellow Peril (The Chinese on the Goldfields), the "Wogs" from Italy and Greece, the Asians, who, Pauline Hanson feared were going to swamp us -  all these groups have been accused been accused of 'not fitting in and seeking to subvert our Australian way of lif, yet all them have eventually been absorbed into our society and enriched our culture with aspectss of their own.

 

There is no valid reason to suppose that the same thing will not happen with more recent groups. Culture is not a set of  practices and beliefs set in stone for all eternit , it changes constantly, and if we want to speculate on what our society will look like in 100 years time, then the eductaion we give our kids needs  to at least acknowledge the historical heritage of all those Australians whose ancestors were not European.

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@crikey*mate wrote:

@lakeland27 wrote:

 we are already too inward-looking. there's little to be learned from that. i'm sure a encyclopedic knowledge of the history of Burundi will do little for a persons job prospects, saturation of the corriculum with topics like Anzac's is equally useless in the job market.

they already know this stuff.


you're missing my point, it's not the facts, it's the lessons derived from those facts

 

"thery already know that" what do they know, and how do they know it?

 

 


Fact is that the national curriculum can not be blamed for students needing written english classes when they arrive at uni.

 

Fact is it can not fairly be blamed for anything since it has not had time to have any effect yet.

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Pyne's education panel consists of two people.

 

An analysis of his press release

 

http://ausopinion.com/2014/01/10/pynetwomen/

 

 

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@freakiness wrote:

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

I think the fact that universities are teaching maths and English remedial courses is a symptom of an education system that isn't meeting the needs of students who go on to university

 


So what is new? When I first met Elizabeth Jolley 20 odd years ago she was teaching remedial English at a University. How many Governments, both State and Federal and on both sides of politics have we had in that tme?

 

When I did my O levels in UK (roughly the equivalent then of the old Leaving Certificatehere) we studied two English courses, English Literature and English Language. English Language encompassed all the 'boring' bits - grammar, syntax, spelling comprehension etc - BU,T a pass in this subject was the one thing  demanded by nearly all prospective employers.

I can't speak for what the current situation is in England , but I'm pretty sure if the current Austrlalian system put more emphasis on teaching the mechanics of the English Language, then I wouldn't be conducting workshops with creativeely gifted children who simply don't have the tools to express clearly what they want to write. 


The classes are not remedial in the same context as primary school remedial either. They are more about correct grammar, structure and academic writing than what would be classed as remedial english in a traditional sense. I'm fairly sure they're not called remedial english either.  It's more a refresher course of the forgotten rules of english or maths. It reminds me of the old use it or lose it principle.


You are correct, Freaki, but Elizabeth Jolley certainly called it 'remedial English'. In the main she was teaching engineering students who didn't know how to put an essay together cohesively. The fact is that High School students simply aren't taught enugh about the mechanics of the English language - mainly, I suspect, because learning grammar, syntax etc is tedious and  and repetitive and we mustn't bore the little darlings, must we?

 

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There should be more religious education in Australian schools, says one of the men tasked with reviewing the national curriculum.

Former teacher and ex-Liberal Party staffer Kevin Donnelly says Australian education has become too secular, and the federation's Judeo-Christian heritage should be better reflected in the curriculum.

The review was announced yesterday by Federal Education Minister Christopher Pyne, after concerns the curriculum had become too left-leaning and was failing students.

Mr Donnelly says religion does not have enough of a presence in Australia's "very secular curriculum", and that it needs to be taught "more effectively".

"I'm not saying we should preach to everyone, but I would argue that the great religions of the world - whether it's Islam, whether it's Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism - they should be taught over the compulsory years of school," he said.'' ABC.

 

It seems the actual plan is to introduce a religious bias . is this a government or a catholic junta ?

 

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 The fact is that High School students simply aren't taught enough about the mechanics of the English language ..

 

That doesn't apply to ALL High School students. Also some children are taught enough, but they don't listen, don't care or don't have the ability to absorb it.

 

Remedial English classes at Uni would have a very small number of participants compared to the number of students in an intake for a semester.

 

I went to an 'essay writing' class at Uni when I was there a few years ago, with 2 of my friends (all mature aged students). Everyone there except us 3 were foreign students.

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An overwhelming majority of Aussies are in favour of Pyne's initiative

 

just as an overwhelming majority of Aussies are happy with the government's tackling of numerous issues across the board

 

 

They're going great

 

Aussies are relieved to have the Libs at the helm again

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An overwhelming majority of Aussies are in favour of Pyne's initiative

 

just as an overwhelming majority of Aussies are happy with the government's tackling of numerous issues across the board

 

 

They're going great

 

Aussies are relieved to have the Libs at the helm again


 i doubt that very much. the revelations that today its religious indoctrination will put even more off the idea.

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You are correct, Freaki, but Elizabeth Jolley certainly called it 'remedial English'. In the main she was teaching engineering students who didn't know how to put an essay together cohesively. The fact is that High School students simply aren't taught enugh about the mechanics of the English language - mainly, I suspect, because learning grammar, syntax etc is tedious and  and repetitive and we mustn't bore the little darlings, must we?

 


I think a lot of the time it's forgotten by the time it's needed.  I can't see any problem with running refresher and remedial classes in any subject.  Most people retain more of what they're interested in at the time, or more information from interesting and interactive classes than by rote learning as well. 

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