10-01-2014 01:50 PM - edited 10-01-2014 01:54 PM
ABOUT TIME... The lefties and the greens will hate this and the left teachers and unions will hate it as well..... GOOD hope they do as its about time the left and labor and the unions and teachers stoped brain washing our children with their twisted left views and we got back to values and teaching our kids properly......
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THE Abbott government has moved to reshape school education by appointing strong critics of the national curriculum to review what children are taught, amid fears a "cultural Left" agenda is failing students.
The Education Minister, Christopher Pyne, is seeking a blueprint by mid-year to overhaul the curriculum, warning that the rise of "remedial" classes at universities proves the depths of the problem in Australian classrooms.
Vowing to restore an "orthodox" curriculum, Mr Pyne named author and former teacher Kevin Donnelly and business professor Ken Wiltshire this morning to lead the review.
The appointments clear the way for reforms that could expunge parts of the history syllabus that Tony Abbott has blasted for favouring Labor and the unions but glossing over the work of Coalition prime ministers.
Mr Donnelly is a fierce critic of the "relativism" in the teaching program, while Professor Wiltshire has rejected the emphasis on "competencies" and urged a sharper focus on knowledge and assessment.
The looming changes could spark another "culture war", given past brawls, including John Howard's criticism in 2007 of the "shameful" neglect of Australian history and the disputes over Julia Gillard's introduction of the national curriculum in 2010.
Writing in The Australian today, Mr Pyne declares that parents want a curriculum that is "free of partisan bias" and deals with real-world issues.
Concerns about the teaching program have deepened in recent years as the nation lost ground in global assessments of reading, maths and science, putting Australian students behind their counterparts in Vietnam, Poland and Estonia. (all under Julia and labor and the billions they threw at the system only to fail)
Canberra and the states agreed on changes to the curriculum last year but the new review throws open the debate to the public, allowing for wider consultation and possibly the holding of open hearings.
Mr Pyne said he expected the states to accept the need for change, given signs of the problems with the current curriculum
I think the fact that universities are teaching maths and English remedial courses is a symptom of an education system that isn't meeting the needs of students who go on to university, and that's something the reviewers will be taking a close look at," Mr Pyne said. "The term 'remedial' implies a remedy for a problem and one of the priorities for all governments should be removing the problem."
A key complaint about the curriculum is its emphasis on seven "general capabilities" rather than essential knowledge in fields such as maths, English and history.
Former History Teachers Association president Paul Kiem has warned that this led to a "tick a box" approach to teaching a subject. A similar view was put by NSW Board of Studies president Tom Alegounarias.
Mr Donnelly, a regular contributor to The Australian, has warned against a "subjective" view of culture that neglects the Judeo-Christian values at the core of Australian institutions.
He has also savaged a civics curriculum that teaches that "citizenship means different things to different people at different times", rather than preparing students for an understanding of their responsibilities. "The civics curriculum argues in favour of a postmodern, deconstructed definition of citizenship," he wrote last year.
"The flaws are manifest. What right do Australians have to expect migrants to accept our laws, institutions and way of life?
"Such a subjective view of citizenship allows Islamic fundamentalists to justify mistreating women and carrying out jihad against non-believers."
Mandating a "cultural left national curriculum" would fail students, he wrote.
Professor Wiltshire branded the curriculum a "failure" last January - prior to changes that were put in place last year.
"A school curriculum should be based on a set of values, yet it is almost impossible to determine what values have been explicitly used to design the proposed model," he wrote of the changes under the Gillard government.
"Curriculum should also be knowledge-based, yet we are faced with an experiment that focuses on process or competencies."
Professor Wiltshire also attacked the "astounding devaluation of the book" in modern teaching.
In his outline of the changes, Mr Pyne points to complaints that history classes are not recognising the legacy of Western civilisation and not giving enough prominence to big events in Australian history such as Anzac Day.
Mr Pyne told The Australian yesterday he "most definitely" stood by his past criticisms of the curriculum, including its neglect of business and commerce in the country's history.
"I believe the curriculum should be orthodox and should tell students about where we've come from and why we are the country we are today, so we can shape our future appropriately," he said.
He said he supported the "unvarnished truth" in the curriculum on everything from the treatment of indigenous Australians to political history. "There is little place in a curriculum for elevating relativism over the truth."
Deals with the states are a key factor in the plan after The Australian reported last month that some state education ministers had challenged Mr Pyne over his "command-and-control" approach to the teaching program.
The ministerial talks were held amid the heated debate over the government's shifting position on a $1.2 billion outlay on the Gonski education reforms.
Mr Pyne told The Australian there was a "moral suasion" to improving the teaching program.
"The states, I am sure, would want to implement the best curriculum without a financial incentive to do so," he said.
The current curriculum has three priorities across subjects - indigenous culture, Asia and sustainability - but Mr Pyne questioned their merits.
"It's difficult to see in maths and science how those three themes are necessarily relevant," he said in an interview. "Themes should not be elevated above a robust curriculum."
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on 12-01-2014 02:35 PM
I started to read the posts but there were some real scrollers... sorry.. I only read a few.
My overall thoughts
Yes there is bias in the school system.... some political some educational.
Why should I have to pull my son out of school becuase it made him sick because it confused him?
Why did the system fail him so greatly?
Why did he not get a stable teaching group?
Why does the only teacher that was amazing with him say to me that if you are not a labor leaning teacher you get shunned?
Why if she chose not to go on strike (special needs kids don't like change) did they all get so aggressive towards her?
The school system needs to be fixed. It fails lots of kids and puts too much pressure on teachers. Bring back the basics.....
on 12-01-2014 03:09 PM
on 12-01-2014 03:17 PM
@just_me_karen wrote:
I don't believe they were aggressive towards her, but perhaps they were a little miffed that they sacrificed their pay to achieve better outcomes for all teachers...while she snaffled her pay and grabbed the benefits. I don't like teachers like that.
Your post demonstrates why the Gonski reforms were so important, but unfortunately trashed by abbott. I personally think home schooling should be more tightly regulated.
Donna, maths in year 12 is vital if you're going to be a doctor or accountant, but otherwise yr 10 maths is good enough,,,unless you're a traditionalist and want to return to the education standards of the 50s. Kids are wiser choosing subjects that relate to their career choice, or skills.
I reckon they need to improve maths teaching in the years under yr 10 because so many kids leave school without sufficient skills, even to do a trade. I yr 7 there's a six year skill gap...ie, some kids will be performing at a really high level, but others will only have early primary level skills.
No, please no return to the 50s. The greatest enemy for maths is the attitude and expectation that maths is hard and no fun.
A good maths teacher demonstrates the fun in everyday applications and encourages kids to enjoy learning maths.
on 12-01-2014 03:22 PM
Donna, maths in year 12 is vital if you're going to be a doctor or accountant, but otherwise yr 10 maths is good enough,,,unless you're a traditionalist and want to return to the education standards of the 50s. Kids are wiser choosing subjects that relate to their career choice, or skills.
Yes, that is what I think too, there are a lot of children that can't do maths in their head by the age of 16, if they don't get it by then another 2 years isn't a guarantee that they ever will. They are best to do a trade of some kind, or at the very least something that interests them.
PS. my daughter came first in Science out of about 180 kids (I think) last year, boy was that a shock 🙂
on 12-01-2014 03:22 PM
Teacher quality is so important. Teachers who instil a love of learning are the best kind of teachers there are and the results are far reaching and long lasting.
on 12-01-2014 03:33 PM
@catsnknots wrote:
The school system needs to be fixed. It fails lots of kids and puts too much pressure on teachers. Bring back the basics.....
That migt be why there has been such a comprehensive non partisan review with some changes taking effect.
on 12-01-2014 03:50 PM
@lakeland27 wrote:
@crikey*mate wrote:
@lakeland27 wrote:criikey the school are ripping you off. the calculator is 200 here..
Some of them are over $400! Have a quick squizz on eBay even!
it's still a lot of money. Will every parent find that money? Some kids don't even get breakfast. If they are bought, will they be replaced if lost/stolen/damaged?
Lots of parents struggle to buy school shoes.
i guess its fortunate the gillard govt put the schoolkids bonus in place ? they didn't manage to remove the mining tax bill so parents still get the money, i agree. without the bonus many a child would turn up this year without books or calculators.. next year those kids will go without.
i thought the bonus was only a one off payment? I'm glad that it's still going.
I used to claim school expenses on my tax, I can;'t do that anymore.
I just did a school shop.
2 pair black clarks shiners - $100 each (20% off atm)
$125 for all 4 of us on stationary stuff at Big W. few bits and pieces to go, but that's the basics done and enough to get everyone started at least. included 30 A4 notebooks (128) page whilst they're 75c each only 20 of those for school (10 each kid) some pens, highlighters, rubbers, glue stick an Fx82 ($20 diown from nearly 40), , graph paper, document wallets, visual art diary (whatever that is - looked like a scrap book to me,,,, no coloured pens etc, or kent sets etc, just the basics.
we don't pay for text books as they are provided on line and that cost is in the school fees
I think I just have
1 blazer (grade 11)
1 jumper (don't need that till winter though)
1 schoolbag (the otherone died after 9 years LOL)
1 pencilcase
2 sports shoes
1 external hard drive
art stuff for LC
and I should be done.
LC needs a few more bits of uniform, but I'm trying to stretch her out as she gets a whole new one in yr 10, so being really skimpy there
they got new socks last year, so they will do this year.
It's not cheap.
on 12-01-2014 03:59 PM
@freakiness wrote:Crikey, I'm curious about your claim there is no money for the Gonski review school reforms while advocating even greater reforms that are bound to cost more to implement.
I agree wholeheartedly that we don't have the money to do what is needed. I said that earlier
Gonski, in it's present form is an ill fitting bandaid.
One of the schools that we service in Cooktown has no internet. Is cooktown remote? The school doesn't have the infrastructure to support it.
There is at least one school here on the Gold Coast at Gaven, where footwear is optional as a means to reduce truancy. There are much lower socioeconomic areas at Woodridge and Logan, so I would say there would be similar there.
But it's all fine
It's fine, evrything is fine.
Our education system is perfect.
Gonski will save us
The Australian Curriculum meets international standards, puts all Australian children on an even footing, puts all Australian Children in line with their international peers, but most importantly values and treats every Australian child equally.
Happy?
12-01-2014 04:00 PM - edited 12-01-2014 04:01 PM
Are you a 10 year old pretending to be your mum?
on 12-01-2014 04:01 PM
@izabsmiling wrote:I can't remember how much it cost though I do my own year 9 school required scientific calculator (with the tan,sin,cos etc...all that stuff I've never used in my life and professional life..though some people might ) wasn't cheap back in the 1980's.
a scientific calculator is usually around $30 for an Fx82, but they're $20 at Big W today..
A graphics calculator (used in math, not graphics) is different. (it might be used in graphics, but as none of mine did graphics, I don't know)