I was speaking to a Hostie mate last night. Both he and his wife have been employed by qantas for all their working life.
His wife for 35 years and he for 33 after taking redundancy twice and starting as an apprentice engineer He now works
as cabin crew.
He has many pics from the 60's/70s with "the flying (Sir Hudson) Fysh" who often visited the maintenance hangars way
back when.
The gathering was held at another mutual friends house whose brothers and sister are also lifetime Qantas Hosties.
My wifes employer was also there who is a retired Qantas pilot and now owns a local Motel
..... certainly was a "lively" discussion.......
If any of you are members of the "Qantas" Club then you would have got the email from the 20th February regarding
the upgrade to the lounges and new benefits to executive members. Greg knows many many executive frequent flyers
personally and he knows of only disgust and dismay re Joyces non effort citing anecdotally the loss of large compnay
contracts in protest of the proposed rationalization
The amount of money being bleached out of qantas by Jetstar is unbeleiveable. Qantas pays Jetstars fuel bill. Qantas
pays for 12 (at present) Jetstar planes @ approximately 300 000 dollars a week per plane that are dry "stored' at
various airports throughout the world. qantas charge Jetsatr no rent for terminal use.......
The waste and money syphoning is obvious to long term employees as is Joyce's goal ie that is to strip qantas of
its assets and transfer as many as possible to Jetstar before privatization occurs along with the larger company
accounts....... The problem being many have already jumped ship to other airline companies beacsue they will not use
Jetstar
He directed me to this blog post from 2011.. and some questions that the union wanted answers to way back in 2011
on Crikey...and are still waiting to be answered
http://blogs.crikey.com.au/planetalking/2011/08/16/questions-that-qantas-investors-may-like-to-have-...
General Questions
1. How much did each segment of the Group pay and what amount was allocated to each segment, for advertising in FY 2011? What amount was paid by or allocated to the Qantas International business?
2. On the Qantas finger Brisbane at Gate 25, Qantas Crews have been unable to dock when all other gates were taken. Gate 25 in some cases was not being used for several hours but the aircraft and passengers have waited, burning Jet fuel in the process until another bay was free. Why was this gate in the Qantas Brisbane finger not available for Qantas use? Are there any other Gates in Qantas fingers that Qantas werenโt able to regularly use?
3. In regard to aircraft owned or leased by the Qantas segment of the Group, what were the lease costs charged or allocated to each other segment when those aircraft were leased or sub-leased to that other segment in FY 2011?
4. How much did each segment of the Group pay and what amount was allocated to each segment for upkeep of the Qantas intranet and all its parts such as the directory in FY 2011? What amount was paid by or allocated to the Qantas International business?
5. How much did each segment of the Group pay and what amount was allocated to each segment, for Directors, Executive Directors and Group Executives remuneration in FY 2011? What amount was paid by or allocated to the Qantas International business?
6. We understand that Jetstar equipment was held in Qantas storage areas (formerly QCD). How much did Jetstar pay and what amount was allocated to Jetstar for the cost of storage in FY2011?
7. How much did each segment of the Group pay and what amount was allocated to each segment for โGroup Securityโ in FY 2011? What amount was paid by or allocated to the Qantas International business?
8. When a Qantaslink or Jetstar passenger uses the Qantas Club or Chairmanโs lounge facilities, what processes ensure that the cost is re-couped from those parts of the business?
9. How much did each segment of the Group pay and what amount was allocated to each segment for the cost of Oldmeadow Consulting and associated entities for FY 2011? What amount was paid by or allocated to the Qantas International business?
10. How much did each segment of the Group pay and what amount was allocated to each segment for the cost of staff car parking for FY 2011? What amount was paid by or allocated to the Qantas International business?
11. How much did each segment of the Group pay and what amount was allocated to each segment for the administrative costs of fuel hedging for FY 2011? What amount was paid by or allocated to the Qantas International business?
12. How has Qantas charged other parts of the Group for ground services equipment use?
13. What part of the business paid the expense for the two managers seconded to Jetstar Pacific who were kept under house arrest? Who paid for the other managers who went up to rescue them?
14. How much did each segment of the Group pay and what amount was allocated to each segment for the cost of consultantโs fees, including Bain and Co., reviewing the overall business in FY 2011? What amount was paid by or allocated to the Qantas International business?
15. How much did each segment of the Group pay and what amount was allocated to each segment for the cost of sending senior executives to appear before Senate inquiries, including their legal representation and associated costs for FY 2011? What amount was paid by or allocated to the Qantas International business?
16. How much did each segment of the Group pay and what amount was allocated to each segment for the cost of the Crisis Control Centre on 5th floor QCC2 in FY2011? What amount was paid by or allocated to the Qantas International business?
17. Please confirm whether all Group aviation fuel bills get charged to the Qantas segment. How much did each segment of the Group pay and what amount was allocated to each segment, for the cost of fuel for FY 2011? What amount was paid by or allocated to the Qantas International business? What processes were used to charge each part of the business for its fuel use?
18. How much did Jetstar pay or what cost was allocated to Jetstar, for the use of Qantas Long Haul Route manual supplement information?
19. Who paid the bill for ACARS use and what cost was allocated to each segment of the Group? What amount was paid by or allocated to the Qantas International business?
20. Has Jetstar ever used Qantaslink check in counters at T2 Sydney? If so, how much did they reimburse Qantaslink for that use?
21. How much did each segment of the Group pay and what amount was allocated to each segment for the cost of insuring the Group aircraft fleet for FY 2011? What amount was paid by or allocated to the Qantas International business?
22. How much did each segment of the Group pay and what amount was allocated to each segment for the cost of production and distribution of the Annual Report and the cost of the Annual General Meeting for FY 2010? What amount was paid by or allocated to the Qantas International business?
23. Which part of the business pays the wages of the ground staff in Bali?
24. Who paid for the self-check in units, their installation and upkeep?
25. In 2009 Qantas admitted that it has โseconded employees and various support servicesโ to Jetstar Asia. How many employees were seconded in FYs 2008, 2009 and 2010. Who paid their wages?
26. How much did each segment of the Group pay and what amount was allocated to each segment for the cost of refuelling the Groupโs ground equipment in FY2011? What amount was paid by or allocated to the Qantas International business?
27. How much did each segment of the Group pay and what amount was allocated to each segment for the cost of maintaining Qantas Group airbridges in FY2011? What amount was paid by or allocated to the Qantas International business?
28. How much did each segment of the Group pay and what amount was allocated to each segment for the cost of jointly used conveyor belts and associated costs in check-in areas in FY2011? What amount was paid by or allocated to the Qantas International business?
29. How much did each segment of the Group pay and what amount was allocated to each segment for the cost of the General Manager Group Government and Industrial Affairs salary in FY 2011? What amount was paid by or allocated to the Qantas International business?
30. From the December 31st 2010 half year report, what made up the $520 million of intersegment revenue received by Qantas?
31. From the December 31st 2010 half year report, what made up the $98 million of intersegment revenue received by Jetstar?
Maintenance Related
32. At outstations where any Qantas Group A330 aircraft flew, who have the spare A330 parts used been billed to?
33. Who is paying for the $21 million refurbishment of Hangar 245 that will predominantly house 787โฒs?
34. Why were LAMEs told not to fill out form 2350โฒs (customer billing sheets) when additional work or equipment is required on non- Qantas mainline aircraft? How much was charged to Jetstar through this process in FY2011?
35. The following appears in the Jetstar manuals -
JETSTAR AIRWAYS HAS BEEN SPONSORED BY QANTAS AS AN EQUALISED MEMBER OF THE IATP SPARES POOLING AGREEMENT. JETSTAR AIRWAYS DOES NOT PROVIDE ANY SPARES FOR THE POOL BUT RELIES UPON QANTAS FOR THEIR PROVISION. THE POOLING SYSTEM WILL BE OPERATED BY QANTAS ON BEHALF OF JETSTAR AIRWAYS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROCEDURES SET DOWN IN THE QANTAS E&M PROCEDURES MANUAL (CHAPTER 4-60-005) AND RELATED DOCUMENTS.
What do Jetstar pay for this service?
36. In Perth and Darwin from time to time check in staff are required both Qantas and Jetstar uniforms. Who pays their wages?
37. Has Jetstar used the Qantas Maintenance Watch for their A330? How much were they charged for this use in FY2011?
38. Is Jetstar charged for the compilation and distribution of work packages by Qantas planners for the Jetstar A330 transits and overnight work in domestic and international ports?
39. How much did each segment of the Group pay and what amount was allocated to each segment for the cost of Engineering Manager Rod Pullbrookโs salary in FY2011? What amount was paid by or allocated to the Qantas International business?
40. Has any Qantas tooling been sold or transferred to Jetstar. How much paid to Qantas or what cost was allocated to Jetstar for the tooling?
Crewing
41. How much did each segment of the Group pay and what amount was allocated to each segment for the cost of Sim, Emergency Procedures and medical training for Tech and Cabin Crew in FY2011? What amount was paid by or allocated to the Qantas International business?
42. Has any part of the business been required to send Tech crew overseas for training because Australian facilities were being fully utilised? If so, which part, what was the cost and how much did each segment of the Group pay and what amount was allocated to each segment in FY 2011? What amount was paid by or allocated to the Qantas International business?
43. When Tech and Cabin Crew are required to pax to another port for duty, what processes are used to allocate costs between the different segments?
44. When Qantas Long Haul Crews fly Domestic sectors, does Qantas Domestic pay their wages?
45. What was the financial cost to mainline of transferring aircraft to Jetstar and Qantas carrying a pilot surplus for the last 3 years?
46. How much did each segment of the Group pay and what amount was allocated to each segment for the cost of Jetstar NZ cadets staying in hotels in Australia in FY 2011? What amount was paid by or allocated to the Qantas International business?
Freight
47. How much did each segment of the Group pay and what amount was allocated to each segment, for the cost of QF AKE baggage containers, including upkeep, in FY2011? What amount was paid by or allocated to the Qantas International business?
48. Have there been times where the Group has been required to hire containers from other operators due to shortages? If so, what part of the business bears the expense or hire charge?
49. How much did each segment of the Group pay and what amount was allocated to each segment for the legal fees, fines and associated costs of the freight cartel issue from FYs 2006-11? What amount was paid by or allocated to the Qantas International business?
50. Do Qantas pay a fixed price for Cargo space on any Jetstar service? If so, how much revenue did they earn from the cargo and how much did they pay for the space?
51. If Qantas pay a fixed price for Cargo space on Jetstar services, when that space is not used, do they get revenue back from Jetstar?
52. How much did each segment of the Group pay and what amount was allocated to each segment, for the cost of Freight Sales and Reservations Department and staff in FY2011? What amount was paid by or allocated to the Qantas International business?
53. Did Qantas pay a fixed price to Jetstar to carry freight on flights to Japan and other areas that saw those flights cancelled due to natural disasters? If so was the money paid back?
Flight sharing
54. Did Qantas buy a fixed number of seats on Jetstar/Qantas codeshare flights operated by Jetstar in FY2011? If so how many did they buy and what price was charged? What load factor did Qantas have on these purchased seats? If Qantas didnโt sell the seats, could Jetstar then sell them? If Jetstar sold the seats how was the revenue dealt with?
55. For cancelled Jetstar flights, was this revenue refunded to Qantas?
56. Did Jetstar buy a fixed number of seats on Jetstar/Qantas codeshare flights operated by Qantas in FY2011? If so how many did they buy and what price was charged? What load factor did Jetstar have on these purchased seats? If Jetstar didnโt sell the seats, could Qantas then sell them? If Qantas sold the seats how was the revenue dealt with?
57. When Jetstar took over the Cairns-Darwin-Singapore route replacing the QF 61/62, was an agreement struck which saw Qantas pay a fixed sum in revenue for use of that service annually?
58. When a delay on a QF aircraft is incurred whilst waiting for passengers from other parts of the business, who pays this cost?
59. What amount was paid to Qantas each time they were chartered to fly services to recover stranded Jetstar passengers?
60. Does Qantas have an agreement between the various parts of the Group dealing with Disruption Handling including, but not limited to, the cost to be paid or allocated for carrying disrupted passengers?
61. When a passenger purchases a Qantas ticket but flies on Jetstar, how is the revenue from ancillary charges paid or allocated between Qantas?
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maybe they could both use their frequent flyer points and book one way tickets to anywhere but here.
