Racist and Hateful? or Much Loved Toy

[imastawka]

Ebay have removed listings, worldwide, in the last couple of days

for Golliwog/Golly citing the 'hateful or discriminatory policy.'

Aunt Jemima dolls (mammy dolls)  have also gone

The weird part is, there was a sub-category in Dolls/Bears for Golliwogs

All things Golliwog have disappeared.

Books including ones by Enid Blyton have gone. 

It's ok to sell them, just don't put golliwog/golly in the title.

I have been informed that I need to be educated on the matter,

and have been given links to things like the Jim Crow Museum

 http://www.ferris.edu/HTMLS/news/jimcrow/golliwog/

My own opinion is, I love gollies.    I can see no relevance to them in Australia.

I think they are/were a much loved toy with no underlying racial tones.

A lot of people may be upset by the images, but I think Ebay has just made

them worth a lot more money on other sites.

I'm not looking for an argument, and you won't get one.

I would just like some more opinions.

It started on the Selling Boards

http://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Selling/Item-specific-Listing-Removed-Sick-Of-It/td-p/1834945

I would hope that opinions do not run too hot,  and turn into arguments.

[j*oono]

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

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@thecatspjs wrote:

The best thing of all is that your posts speak for themselves with no content aside from nitpicking everything else aside from matters pertaiing topic.

*sigh*

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(in case you didn't know and for future reference,

just follow the citations. look!  you may have learnt

something knew after all)  

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I guess you meant something new 😄

You're welcome.

[Anonymous]

yes!  i meant 'new'.  well spotted.

thank you 

[thecatspjs]

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

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@thecatspjs wrote:

The best thing of all is that your posts speak for themselves with no content aside from nitpicking everything else aside from matters pertaiing topic.

*sigh*

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the best thing of all?  ok  

but

most of my posts are referring to the

topic though.

questioning the wiki quote on the other hand

was completely unnecessary (and irrelevant)

as it is easy enough to verify it.  

(in case you didn't know and for future reference,

just follow the citations. look!  you may have learnt

something knew after all)  

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No it wasn't unneccesary at all - it was calling you on copying text from an unreliable source, that was not cited, and that you noted in your post was FACT [sic]

it was amusing for me (slightly)  ... but quite misleading .. as Wiki excerpts are by no means reliable FACT  .. *giggles*

[imastawka]

*giggles*!!    Are you freakin' kidding me?    Your lolcats don't fool anyone  

[Anonymous]

oh but i did check if the statement

was correct.  i would not have posted it

otherwise.   it is easy to verify if wiki content

comes from a reliable source.

so which part of the information i posted from

wiki was misleading?

[thecatspjs]

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@imastawka wrote:

*giggles*!!    Are you freakin' kidding me?    Your lolcats don't fool anyone  

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lol

[Anonymous]

that was quick 

you should have left it, i liked it 

[thecatspjs]

Of course ..... Toooooo predictable ...

[lind9650]

Golly gosh!!!

And my exclamation has nothing to do with a doll.

As God-fearing people we had been taught never to take Gods name in vain. So instead of saying "GOOD GOD!" it became "Golly Gosh!"

Translate Golly to Good. Has nothing to do with coloured people.

Now, tell me it is racist to say those words.

Erica

[thecatspjs]

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@lind9650 wrote:

Golly gosh!!!

And my exclamation has nothing to do with a doll.

As God-fearing people we had been taught never to take Gods name in vain. So instead of saying "GOOD GOD!" it became "Golly Gosh!"

Translate Golly to Good. Has nothing to do with coloured people.

Now, tell me it is racist to say those words.

Erica

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Yes, gosh and golly, originated as euphemisms for god and their use in this context predates the invention of the golli.

I can see that the labelling of Robertsons jams used both a image of a golli as well as including the euphemism in its branding.

Aside from that, not sure how this euphemism and its use instead of "God" and the racial sterotyping nature of golli products can be linked.  Others might know more or have some ideas.