Return to Kevin Rudd as Labor Leader

In view of the shambles and disarray of the Labor party and the probable rout at the September 14th. elections with possibly two thirds of Labor falling and the looming event of the NLP haveing a vast majority and possibly the control of the Senate as well :-- 


 


Would you be in favour of Kevin Rudd being returned as Labor Leader and Prime Minister?

I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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Gillard stabbed him in the back.


 


As far as I am concerned she has done soooo much damage to the Labor name that no one can save them now.


It wouldn't matter if they put God himself in charge they still wouldn't win.


 


Since they have let Julia steer the ship into the path of the iceberg I think they should let her go down with the ship, accept that this election is lost and after this election kick her butt to the kerb and then get a new leader.  Now I don't know if that should be Kevin or not.  Apparently he was a pain in the butt to work with before and Lord knows there are still a lot of pollies in Govt who hate his guts but maybe if he has learned his lesson and could be a more reasonable boss he might get the job again.  Or maybe it is time for some new blood!

"Something wicked this way comes!"
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Shorten rumoured to be shifting. The AWU faction may dump Gillard


 


LABOR is being swept with expectations that Julia Gillard will be replaced as Prime Minister before ...  with Kevin Rudd now seen as the party’s only hope of averting electoral disaster. 



Shocked by polling and amazed at the former prime minister’s reception in Geelong on Friday, some of Ms Gillard’s staunchest backers are now wobbling in their support.


 


Since Saturday, federal Labor has been alive with speculation that Bill Shorten has switched his support and pivotal numbers to Ms Gillard in favour of Mr Rudd…


 


Veteran ABC political journalist and former chief-of-staff to prime minister Bob Hawke, Barrie Cassidy  [mate of Tim Mathieson],   said ... he believed Ms Gillard’s prime ministership was in its final days.


 


The 2011 assurance given by Paul Howes, secretary of the union strongest in supporting Julia Gillard - Shorten’s AWU: I’m 100 per cent positive, I’ll bet my house on it, that Julia Gillard will lead Labor to the next e...


 


The February 2013 assurance Howes gave to Gillard:


 


Thank you for being here, PM… Thank you for (the) honour - and we’ve got ya back.


 


 

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But really is labor that desperate... sadly yes they are to have the narcissistic Rudd back.


 


The man that started most of this rot and the destruction of our borders yet the Australian public (some of them) seem to still think that he is the messiah 


 


You have to question the objectivity of Labor voters that are pressing for a Rudd return, have they forgotten the damage this man has done to this country?


 


He was personally responsible for the scrapping of a working border policy that has resulted in the diabolical mess we now have.


 


The petulance, the ego, the manic work schedule, the disrespect of staff and contemporaries.


 


There is something very strange about Rudd and I wish I were a psychiatrist to give you a full analysis.


 


All I see is someone that uses odd expressions and words, someone that has to have an adoring crowd around himself or a TV camera in his face. I think the word is narcissistic. He isn't one bit bit interested in the voters or the country, he is only interested in himself and destroying Gillard. 


 


Labor's leadership debacle has party waking up to a bitter pill hangover


 


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/labors-leadership-debacle-has-party-waking-up-to-a-bitter-pill-hangover/story-fni0cwl5-1226660659148


 


ALTERING one molecule of the illegal drug LSD gives drug peddlers a loophole to push a deadly synthetic to young people too innocent to know better.


 


Change the leadership of the Labor Party, again, and a growing number of the ALP's political pushers hope that wishful and naive voters will swallow an equally disastrous electoral drug.


 


Forget that Kevin Rudd was such a lousy Prime Minister that his deputy, Julia Gillard, felt compelled to take unprecedented action and politically assassinate him, he and his supporters are on the march.


 


To return now to Kevin O'Lemon would be a huge ask but such is the predicted outcome of the September 14 election that as many as 32 ALP MPs think he is their last hope and have asked him to campaign for them in their electorates.


 


More here http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/labors-leadership-debacle-has-party-waking-up-to-a-bitter-pill-hangover/story-fni0cwl5-1226660659148


 


Kevin may add a Rudd-er, but even he can't skipper this sinking ship


 


THE sight of Kevin Rudd being mobbed on the hustings in Geelong must send a chill down the Prime Minister's spine.


 


"Please come back. We would vote for you straight away," a blonde woman told Rudd, whose response was a cheesy grin flashed straight at the cameras to check the moment had been captured.


 


In coded and not so coded fashion, Rudd is on the march.


 


While it sounds absurd, there is no guarantee he won't lead Labor to the election. That is not a media concoction. Julia Gillard's stricken face in parliament last week, as Rudd moved brazenly around her loyalists, spoke volumes.


 


She has come so close to completing a term in office. She wants history to remember her as the "tough" first female prime minister who defied all odds to implement landmark policies on disability and education. This, she hopes, will be her enduring legacy after people have forgotten those policies are mirages, and that everything her government has done has turned to dust.


 


The border-protection fiasco she set in train from opposition is her true legacy, with 40,000 asylum seekers on her watch. Friday night saw another tragedy with a report of 60 asylum seekers drowned off Christmas Island, as people smugglers ramp up in anticipation of a Coalition victory. But on this issue, as with everything else, she and Rudd are equally hopeless. Rudd just thinks he's a better salesman.


 


How would voters take his return? Probably initially with satisfaction, as the rightful king is restored to the throne so unreasonably snatched from him. They might be disappointed at being deprived of the kicking they had been looking forward to giving Gillard, but they would still enjoy Rudd's revenge.


 


Then we'd remember what Rudd was like, and why his popularity had plunged to the point where his colleagues thought they could take him out. He doesn't like the media describing the last seven years as the Rudd-Gillard government, but the difference is little more than stylistic.


 


He has no answers, and co-owns most of the dud policies Gillard botched. Sure he'll save a few seats, but Labor will be back at square one with the whole stinking mess


 


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/kevin-may-add-a-rudd-er-but-even-he-cant-skipper-this-sinking-ship/story-fni0cwl5-1226660624697


 


 


 


 

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As you may have guessed I am not a believer or supporter of Labor ethos.


The all too close affiliation of the Labor party and militant unions that have held this country and it's people to ransom on many occasions has been, and would be, unhealthy to the development of Australia.


This particular Labor government, the Rudd/Gillard government will surely go down in history as dark days for democracy.


 


Having said all that, neither to I relish what may very well eventuate.


Any government with total power over both houses has too much power, that power could and will be used for the good of Australia or to it's detriment.


 


In any debate the opposing teams should be on a par.


 


You don't have to look very far for evidence of this fact. Even C/S is not a level playing field and you have all seen the results.  

I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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Surely they couldn't even contemplate foisting that passive aggressive psychotic control freak back on the people.


 


Tony Sheldon (TWU) heavy said they are not going to restore Rudd, it would be madness. He intimated that they would rather gnaw their leg off than have him back.


 


He said all the policy failures that have dogged Gillard were Rudd policies, so what, is she so stupid that she couldn't formulate her own policies?.


 


The knub of Gillards failure is she has no leadership qualities, no real Labor values (like Rudd). Rudd & her are the architects of their own downfall & I can't wait until Sept.

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I have no doubt that there are some heads tightly inserted in the sand or some other dark place within the ranks of the Unions, Labor Caucus, Labor power brokers and among rusted on Labor people, but what about them all going over a cliff out sheer perversity and taking the existance of Labor with them.


 


Does anyone think that the believer in true Labor ethos will thank this bunch? 

I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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I liked Kev, I voted for him. much prefer him and his little tantrums than Julia

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silverfaun
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Who does this remind you of:


 


Narcissistic personality Includes five or more of the following characteristics


 


Is grandiose in evaluation of self without demonstrating superior achievements


Concentrates on fantasies of great success, influence, intelligence, beauty or perfect love


Believes in own "specialness" and expects to associate with high prestige people or institutions


Demands to be overly admired


Feels entitled to special treatment and to have demands acceded to


Exploits others to achieve own ends


Lacks empathy for others


Frequently envious of others and assumesr others are envious of him


Is arrogant in attitudes and behaviour.


 


It's totally scary to think that Rudd presents with ALL the characteristics so does that make him a super narcissist?


 


 

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Nick sure has a realistic but floral turn of phrase 🙂


 


Senator Xenophon says his Labor colleagues are despondent.


 ‘I think a few months ago he (Kevin) would have saved the leather lounge suite; right now I’m not sure he would save much more than the bean bags.’’ 


 


Some Labor politicians knew they’d be able to save themselves at the September election with ‘‘the Kevin drug’’, he said.


 


‘‘But they hate the person that will be administering the medication so much they don’t want to be a part of it,’’ he said.

I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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