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Satanic pianos and anthem a disgrace?

 

BACK in 2012 the Islamic College of South Australia made headlines when it sacked a female staff member for failing to wear a headscarf.

 

In hindsight it looks like these developments were a sign that some people at the college, which was once hailed as a multicultural success story with a commitment to assimilation, were determined to ensure that it maintained a separate identity from the Australian mainstream. Needless to say, in the current climate such an approach is unwelcome.

 

The singing of the anthem is something that happens in every Australian school and is an important symbolic gesture of our togetherness as Australians. If the school has banned the anthem it suggests a hostility to that concept.

 

More disturbing is the report that the school has also banned the playing of the piano from its music program on the grounds that the piano is evil. If this is the case, such medieval nonsense is straight out of the joyless playbook of the Taliban, which regards television, cinema, and almost every form of art as the work of the devil.

 

People are punished for watching TV and listening to music in Afghanistan. If we have a situation here in the suburbs of Adelaide where children are being chastised for wanting to play and enjoy music, we have a very serious problem on our hands.

 

Private religious schools receive public money in Australia. The argument about whether they should was settled in the 1960s. If these schools teach the curriculum and adhere to community values, fair enough.

 

You would doubt that too many taxpayers would want to underwrite a curriculum which regards pianos as satanic and the anthem as a disgrace.

 

The Federal Government should seek answers from this college on our behalf. If these practices are confirmed, the school should not get a cent.

 

More importantly, its teaching practices should be monitored and if necessary stamped out, as this kind of teaching has no place in an enlightened democracy.

 

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I wonder how they feel about abstract art?

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Pianos satanic? well let me think about that one

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3opmedawnU . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_stUbrc4b1E

 

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@am*3 wrote:

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I wonder how they feel about abstract art?


Sad little comment.

 

My Grandma thought playing cards and dancing was 'evil'.


The nuns at my school were convinced that rock and roll was the devil's music - and I'm pretty sure they felt much the same way about abstract art. Going into the chapel without a head covering was practically a mortal sin.:smileylol

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The OP should donate a piano to this school. Woman Wink Then might have some first hand knowledge of whats true and whats not.

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@am*3 wrote:

The OP should donate a piano to this school. Woman Wink Then might have some first hand knowledge of whats true and whats not.


are you saying the parents are not telling

the truth?  all of them?  

 

i saw an interview with them and have no 

reason to believe they are lying.

 

 

 

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The nuns at my school were convinced that rock and roll was the devil's music - and I'm pretty sure they felt much the same way about abstract art. Going into the chapel without a head covering was practically a mortal sin.:smileylol

 

 

thank god they wouldn't be able to get away with

banning music at our schools today - it is what

we are discussing - our schools - present day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@am*3 wrote:

@icyfroth wrote:

 

 

I wonder how they feel about abstract art?


Sad little comment.

 

My Grandma thought playing cards and dancing was 'evil'.


was she a school principal?

 

did she ban dancing at her school?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Islamic College of South Australia board condemned by parents, imams for removing teacher

 

A senior group of South Australian imams has condemned the board of an Islamic school over the recent removal of a moderate Muslim teacher, alleging the board's actions were "un-Islamic".

 

Parents of students at the Islamic College of South Australia at Croydon today staged a boycott, keeping their children at home for the day because of concerns about school management.

Former and current students have also highlighted cultural changes at the school, with some reporting bans on girls and boys sharing corridors.

 

The new principal has said the school's major focus was going to be the improvement of the Islamic curriculum.

But parents have accused its board of undermining education by continually firing principals and teachers, or forcing them to resign.

The most recent case involved Islamic and Quranic studies teacher Sheikh Khalid Yousuf, who is a member of the Imams Council of South Australia.

 

In a strongly worded statement, the council said it was "shocked and saddened" at the situation and labelled the school's actions as "oppressive and irresponsible".

 

"[The council] condemns the inappropriate and illegal action that was taken ... against Sheikh Khalid Yousuf, the Islamic and Quranic studies teacher at the school," it said.

It also labelled as "un-Islamic" a suggestion "the sheikh is under investigation, an investigation which [he] has never been aware of and never been told about".

 

The college is one of many Islamic schools facing questions about management, with some parents pointing the finger at the group that runs them, the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils (AFIC).

 

School 'half empty' because of boycott

A group of parents went to the school today without their children to highlight the problems they had perceived at the school.

 

Souraya Serhan's son Raami recently found out he had been expelled via a text message from the school after he protested against the dismissal of a teacher.

"I dare say at least half [the students] are missing," she said.

"We just want basic education for our children, with no mismanagement, with people who have proper credentials to be able to run the school - no more, no less.

 

"The board is currently implementing policies that a lot of parents don't agree with.

"A lot of teachers that have been long-term teachers here are being replaced with new arrival teachers with less experience.

"We have had four principals in three years, which is causing utter chaos."

 

Former student concerned about loss of moderate role models

 

Emma Elhelw was the vice-captain of the school last year and said she was worried about the influence of the board on education.

"There were really nitpicky dress codes, such as the female teachers couldn't wear pants," she said.

 

"In regards to behavioural issues, it was no longer going to the principal, it was kind of just straight to the board."

Ms Elhelw said she was prevented from leaving a meeting with the board, which had descended into screaming, and was left fearful and upset.

 

But she said her earliest memories of the school are of a "safe, happy place" where young Muslims went "to learn about their faith and to learn Arabic".

 

"Brother Khalid ... was our religious teacher. He was such a great role model for kids because he was the perfect example of a moderate Muslim," she said.

 

"I left when we still had those good, moderate role models, but from what I've seen in glimpses of going back to the school for assemblies and such we don't have many examples of that ... anymore.

 

"You really need to have a sound Islamic teacher or Islamic role model at the school to enforce the truth of Islam and not to let people take whatever they see online and in media as what they should believe."

The Imams Council has called for the students expelled for protesting against the sheikh's removal to be allowed to return to the school.

 

The ABC has contacted both the school and the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils but has not received a reply.

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-08/islamic-school-in-crisis-as-parents-keep-kids-home/6456416

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

@am*3 wrote:

@icyfroth wrote:

 

 

I wonder how they feel about abstract art?


Sad little comment.

 

My Grandma thought playing cards and dancing was 'evil'.


The nuns at my school were convinced that rock and roll was the devil's music - and I'm pretty sure they felt much the same way about abstract art. Going into the chapel without a head covering was practically a mortal sin.:smileylol


I reckon that would've been a long time ago, She-el. Probably about the same time as Am's Grandma.

 

Australian society has progressed in leaps and bounds since then. Unlike certain religious groups in Australia that want to continue their in archaic practices.

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

@am*3 wrote:

@icyfroth wrote:

 

 

I wonder how they feel about abstract art?


Sad little comment.

 

My Grandma thought playing cards and dancing was 'evil'.


The nuns at my school were convinced that rock and roll was the devil's music - and I'm pretty sure they felt much the same way about abstract art. Going into the chapel without a head covering was practically a mortal sin.:smileylol


but, that was just after the Reformation wasn't it eleSmiley Wink

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@am*3 wrote:

The OP should donate a piano to this school. Woman Wink Then might have some first hand knowledge of whats true and whats not.


A. I don't have a piano to donate and if I did I'd probably give it to the Salvos or Vinnies. And anyway, even if the school does accept donated pianos doesn't mean they'd allow them to be used.

 

B. Why would it not be true? It was discussed on Studio Ten this morning. You think they'd discuss it if it  weren't true? Just because you're in denial doesn't mean it's not true.

 

Woman Wink

 

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