Save The Billionaires

[boris1gary]

There must be some more ways to save our precious billionaires, lowering taxes has already been done - abolishing the MRRT - tick. Have been wracking by brain for more ideas to help them out.....

[languidlady49]

ok not paper delivery i just threw that in. Clue- there's money in muck but it involves hard work.

[lightningdance]

Love your attitude. At least you are not sitting aroubd perpetrating the phony class war and division this thread embodies.

Well done 

[lightningdance]

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@languidlady49 wrote:

ok not paper delivery i just threw that in. Clue- there's money in muck but it involves hard work.

some just prefer to wallow in muck....lol ...sling muck...lol... Muckety Station in the NT  would be a perfect destination for muck slinging.....lol

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[cherry*135]

Tony Abbott's Billionaires Advisory Board

1 August 2014

"Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me. They possess and enjoy early, and it does something to them, makes them soft where we are hard, and cynical where we are trustful, in a way that, unless you were born rich, it is very difficult to understand. They think, deep in their hearts, that they are better than we are because we had to discover the compensations and refuges of life for ourselves. Even when they enter deep into our world or sink below us, they still think that they are better than we are."
F. Scott Fitzgerald wrote that in a 1925 short story, The Rich Boy. He could have been describing Tony Abbott’s "Billionaire's Advisory Council".

The American writer’s words perhaps explain why Rupert Murdoch gave the go-ahead to levy big business to pay for Mr Abbott’s paid parental scheme promise although the party room had not been consulted.

And they may contextualise Gina Rinehart’s warning Australians need to work harder to compete with $2-a-day African labourers.

A senior research fellow at the Australia Institute, David Richardson, said the appointment of the rich and powerful to advise government was a relatively recent development in national life.

‘‘Historically, Australian governments took advice from people with a track record in handling complex issues,’’ he said on Friday.

‘‘They stick to what they know and don’t go outside their areas of expertise. But the Abbott government is listening more and more to self-selected business men and women who adopt a right wing stand for the occasion.’’


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/tony-abbotts-billionaires-advisory-board-20140801-zzfmk.html#ixzz3COS7K1Wo

[cherry*135]

Concerns at Barrier Reef contractor's humanitarian, environment record

The billionaire Indian magnate planning to ship millions of tonnes of coal through the Great Barrier Reef is facing accusations of massive exploitation of his Indian workforce - including underpayments and exposing them to cholera.

Gautam Adani has won federal approval for what will be Australia's largest coal mine and a major port expansion in Queensland despite concerns over his company's environmental record.

Mr Adani, who is a close friend of India's new leader Narendra Modi, was scheduled to be seated next to Mr Abbott at a luncheon for business leaders in Mumbai on Thursday but withdrew at the last minute, leaving an empty chair next to the Australian Prime Minister.

But a Fairfax Media investigation into the treatment of 6000 construction labourers at a luxury housing project in Gujarat owned by the Adani family has uncovered lax safety standards, underage workers and regular cholera outbreaks from contaminated drinking water.

Mr Adani has plans for a $16 billion project to ship coal from Queensland's Galilee Basin to the energy-hungry Indian market and has lobbied the federal and Queensland governments intensively for the necessary environmental approvals.

Mr Adani and his company Adani Group have lavished gifts on Australian politicians, presenting Queensland premier Campbell Newman with a $2400 silver and rock crystal compass, and a silver Indian vase and pashmina wrap to Mr Abbott.

Fairfax Media is not suggesting the approval for Mr Adani's operations in Australia was made as a result of the gifts.

Australia's richest woman Gina Rinehart - who has separate plans with another Indian company for another mine in the Galilee - joined Mr Adani's company to lodge a joint assessment of the proposed expansion of the port.

Waratah, a company owned by Clive Palmer, also has a separate stake in the Galilee.

In response to a series of questions regarding labour practices at Shantigram, an Adani Group spokesman said the company enjoyed "a very high reputation in all the markets where it operates".

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/concerns-at-barrier-reef-contractors-humanitar...

[karliandjacko]

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@am*3 wrote:
Tony Abbott's Billionaires Advisory Board

1 August 2014

"Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me. They possess and enjoy early, and it does something to them, makes them soft where we are hard, and cynical where we are trustful, in a way that, unless you were born rich, it is very difficult to understand. They think, deep in their hearts, that they are better than we are because we had to discover the compensations and refuges of life for ourselves. Even when they enter deep into our world or sink below us, they still think that they are better than we are."
F. Scott Fitzgerald wrote that in a 1925 short story, The Rich Boy. He could have been describing Tony Abbott’s "Billionaire's Advisory Council".

‘‘They stick to what they know and don’t go outside their areas of expertise. But the Abbott government is listening more and more to self-selected business men and women who adopt a right wing stand for the occasion.’’


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/tony-abbotts-billionaires-advisory-board-20140801-zzfmk.html#ixzz3COS7K1Wo

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It's not only that they're hiring those rich enough to be out of touch but that those they've hired to make the policy are rich lobbyists for the uber wealthy.  There is no way they can be lobbyists for the top end and give fair and reasonable advice to create government policy for the average people.

[boris1gary]

Thanks for staying on topic Am, seems to have gone off on an odd tangent about bettering ones self - SAVE THE BILLIONAIRES - not a self help thread (unless of course ones self is in fact a billionaire and has some sage advice to help our billionaires)  please stay on topic. For instance. these 3.5 billion people, that doesn't sound very fair to the 85 richest - that 3.5 needs to be 4.5. Now the abbott is doing his very best to help them, but what are WE doing?

[fourandsixpants]

to am3 and languidLady:

am3 said:

Ha, my kids did junk mail delivery.. few cents a pamphlet. They needed collecting from distributor, folding and delivering to mailboxes. Fine for a bit of pocket money for young teens.
Newsagents deliver the newspaper. Less people buy printed copies of newspapers now.
Selling craft = about $1 per hour for the time taken to make an item. The cost of materials is high too.

Not money spinners those ideas in 2014, maybe 20+ years ago.

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agree. I was an Operations Manager/Distribution Manager for 2 junk mail companies.....over 20 years ago. One of these company's was a subsidiary company for Rupert Murdoch! LOL

The internet has more money poured into it for advertising purposes now......which Rupert has a stranglehold over.

[fourandsixpants]

to LLady:

who said

I'm a self employed trades person, I bettered myself by going to TAFE and I've made quite a lot of money in my spare time by one of the methods I mentioned.

Go for it paintsy instead of sitting on your computer bagging others.

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Who have I 'bagged' ?

I sit on a chair.....I'm not stupid!

Good on you for getting a Trade Cert and for going to Tafe. Effort is always rewarded.

I have several qualifications and studied for many years after graduating from high school, many years ago:)

I worked part-time and even joined the ARES whilst studying f/time at one stage so that I would not have to continue working 2 p/time jobs at night AND study f/time during the day.

I have always worked hard. It is in my blood.

It was easier for folks to both offer and find a job 20 years ago. Times are not the same now.

I am interested in more details about this 'muck' you talk about that can be turned into profit. Do tell?

Billionaires dig up our dirt/muck to sell off the 'gold'......but you need a lot of financial 'friends' to do this?

I do not have a lot of financial friends willing to loan me their money.....do you?

[fourandsixpants]

I'm a self employed trades person, I bettered myself by going to TAFE and I've made quite a lot of money in my spare time by one of the methods I mentioned.

Go for it paintsy instead of sitting on your computer bagging others.

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Who have I 'bagged' ?

I sit on a chair.....I'm not stupid!

Good on you for getting a Trade Cert and for going to Tafe. Effort is always rewarded.

I have several qualifications and studied for many years after graduating from high school, many years ago:)

I worked part-time and even joined the ARES whilst studying f/time at one stage so that I would not have to continue working 2 p/time jobs at night AND study f/time during the day.

I have always worked hard. It is in my blood.

It was easier for folks to both offer and find a job 20 years ago. Times are not the same now.

I am interested in more details about this 'muck' you talk about that can be turned into profit. Do tell?

Billionaires dig up our dirt/muck to sell off the 'gold'......but you need a lot of financial 'friends' to do this?

I do not have a lot of financial friends willing to loan me their money.....do you?

[boris1gary]

Thought I had come up with a cracker - a political party to represent Billionaires, but then I remembered they already have one. So the new 1 word slogan as an answer to all those who would like to see some fairness....

ENVY

its the answer to everything that those whiney ratbags complain about and it's short and snappy - win win.  

It could be used around the world - example:

Yet today, 780 million people – about one in nine – lack access to clean water. More than twice that many, 2.5 billion people, don’t have access to a toilet.

answer? ENVY

http://water.org/water-crisis/one-billion-affected/