on 05-02-2014 01:35 PM
Indonesia's justice minister will sign Schapelle Corby's parole application in the next three days.
Do you think they'll sign?
on 05-02-2014 09:33 PM
@icyfroth wrote:
@crikey*mate wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:
@twinkles**stars wrote:
@nevynreally wrote:She was charged/convicted of importing, who they belonged to was never an issue, was it?
She was convicted which was an absolute disgrace as there was no evidence to link her, no finger prints, nothing. The whole investigation was a complete mess
Either way, and I think it was hers, or her fathers, or her sisters...she deserves to come home. 9 years is long enough in that hellhole.
I'd like to see her come home. She'll get a warm welcome, I'm sure.
I actually disagree with "9 years is long enough". 9 years is not equivilent to death or a life sentence, which is apparently what drug related offences attract in Indonesia.
The facts are she was convicted by Indonesian Law. Their laws need to be applied, not ours or "our standards" iykwim.
Just as if anyone visiting or being convicted of a crime here should be subjected to our laws etc.
Yeah well...I get your drift, but...
If the Indons are ready to set her free, I'm happy for her to come home.
yep, true, and fair enough, as I said, their country, their law and rules.
on 05-02-2014 09:37 PM
@icyfroth wrote:
@crikey*mate wrote:Hey, does it seem a bit odd to anyone else that at least two "feel good" stories about Bali have been released to the media in the last 2 days?
First, the cough*results*cough of that mother/daughter deaths (willing to bet all the money in my pocket that there is stuff in that we're (being the general public) not being told), and now a possible release for Ms Corby?
plus another death has ocurred in similar circumstances:
An Australian man has died after being found unconscious in a Bali restaurant, local police say.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/australian-man-dies-in-bali-hotel-20140203-hvb0p.html#ixzz2sRD7YDTM
I saw that and it made me go hmmmmm
I don't generally believe in coincidences to start with, but the article about the mum and daughter was so vague, that it just screamed at me "we're just giving you the sanitized version". It was so vague and it contradicted earlier media stories, especially with regards to what their relatives said,,,, I even refrained from posting it on CS LOL)
on 05-02-2014 09:45 PM
on 05-02-2014 09:45 PM
@am*3 wrote:The average age of women who become grandmothers wouldn't be 36.
I am not fussed whether she gets out/is allowed to return to Australia soon or many years later.
I don't see anything suspicious with the mother and daughter. Toxic fish (nothing to do with how it was cooked) and reaction to mothers migraine pills and asthma, toxic reaction to fish and daughters asthma.
well, on that theory, the migraine medicine isn't a contibuting factor, so why did they mention it?
and 2, (now 3) people to diplay the same symptoms?
and the report I read saw spoke of a rare, but mild type of food poisoning which generally lasts 3 to 4 hours, and they only used words like "likely the cause"....
they know. science is too advanced for that - but it's not something they want us to know for some reason.
on 05-02-2014 09:48 PM
I don't generally believe in coincidences to start with, but the article about the mum and daughter was so vague, that it just screamed at me "we're just giving you the sanitized version". It was so vague and it contradicted earlier media stories, especially with regards to what their relatives said,,,, I even refrained from posting it on CS LOL)
It wasn't that vague. Their family are satisfied with the report. They are pleased the tests were done in Australia.
on 05-02-2014 09:50 PM
@icyfroth wrote:
@am*3 wrote:The average age of women who become grandmothers wouldn't be 36.
I am not fussed whether she gets out/is allowed to return to Australia soon or many years later.
I don't see anything suspicious with the mother and daughter. Toxic fish (nothing to do with how it was cooked) and reaction to mothers migraine pills and asthma, toxic reaction to fish and daughters asthma.
Poor hygiene was another factor, I heard on the news this morning. In the preparation of the meal, I mean.
the fish was toxic because of the poor hygiene, it wasn't a toxcic fish. The poor hygiene presumedly provided the environment for the food borne pathogens to prosper.
but ANYWAY, WE WILL NEVER REALLY KNOW (oops, sorry about the caps) just interesting the RUTA tyhere is a third case, with similar circumstances, eh?
05-02-2014 09:50 PM - edited 05-02-2014 09:51 PM
@crikey*mate wrote:well, on that theory, the migraine medicine isn't a contibuting factor, so why did they mention it?
and 2, (now 3) people to diplay the same symptoms?
and the report I read saw spoke of a rare, but mild type of food poisoning which generally lasts 3 to 4 hours, and they only used words like "likely the cause"....
they know. science is too advanced for that - but it's not something they want us to know for some reason.
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Based on what I posted before, it's logical to assume that the place they ate at had a refrigeration issue, therefore some of the seafood they serve (from the mackeral family I think) can cause major problems for those with asthma/allergies. Hardly surprising there's been another fatality.
on 05-02-2014 09:53 PM
Malcolm Bischoff, Noelene's brother, said it appeared they both suffered from scombroid food poisoning that, coupled with their asthma and, in Noelene's case, migraine medication had formed a fatal cocktail.
on 05-02-2014 09:54 PM
Scombroid food poisoning can result from eating spoiled fish, meaning the restaurant's preparation could have made no difference, Mr Bischoff said.
"This is just a one in a million - one in a billion - thing to happen," he said.
on 05-02-2014 09:54 PM
@nevynreally wrote:
@am*3 wrote:The average age of women who become grandmothers wouldn't be 36.
I am not fussed whether she gets out/is allowed to return to Australia soon or many years later.
I don't see anything suspicious with the mother and daughter. Toxic fish (nothing to do with how it was cooked) and reaction to mothers migraine pills and asthma, toxic reaction to fish and daughters asthma.
Was listening to a dr on the radio today, the particular fish they ate, if not refrigerated properly, releases a bacteria. It's not killed off by freezing or cooking and it undetectable. It releases histamines, which considering they had asthma medication with them, very sad accidental deaths.
there are some spore forming bacteria (usually related to clostridium botuli though)
but both their asthma and the type of FP was apparently "mild"... and blood tests would be able to determine the amount of histimine in the blood stream, so why only the claim it is the "likely" cause,
and now there is a third case?