Senate inquiry into Halal certification.

[daydream**believer]

Brilliant.

Whether people support halal certification or not, there are lots of people with lots of concerns so its time to investigate it all.

http://www.3aw.com.au/news/bernardis-inquiry-into-food-certification-schemes-20150514-gh1c32.html

Here are the reasons i am against halal certification and the questions i want answered.
1. Why are the fees paid by businesses for halal certification kept secret? Why do the businesss have to sign non disclosure agreements?

2. Why are there 20+ privately run halal certification companies in Australia, all charging whatever amounts they want, when Indonesia only has 1 Government run halal certifier? If foods need to be halal certified, then let the Government run it and let the money go back into the whole Australian community.

3. For meat to be halal, the animal needs to be slaughtered a certain way, throat slit while animal is conscious by a Muslim. Yes, there are some abattoirs that use a reverse stun but, from what i have researched, there are at least 15 abattoirs in Australia that slaughter animals using no stun. It is barbaric. This video is very graphic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAQJ-FZo1cA

4. Australia is a predominantly Christian country, so why are we being forced to eat meat that has been prayed over to a "god" that we dont even recognise?

5. If halal certification is supposed to help Muslims recognise what they can and cant eat, then why do so many companies that pay for the certification stamp choose not to display it on their products?

6. Why are abattoirs paying a certification fee and then packing all the meat in one truck and delivering it to butchers and supermarkets who then put it all in the one fridge and display it all in the one display fridge. Once pork products are shelved, stored or transported with other meats, the other meats immediately become non halal anyway. So Aussie Muslims cant eat it anyway.

7. We are told halal certification monies goes towards to building of more mosques and Islamic schools. We know that there are quite a few mosques where the hatred of Australia is preached. As for Islamic schools, the same schools where a principal has said that girls are forbidden to run in races because it will cause them to lose their virginity. Do we need schools like that here?

8. In Canada halal certification money was found to be used to fund organisations linked to extremist organisations. I have no doubt that would be happening here as well.

9. Halal is a part of sharia law and we DO NOT want any part of Sharia law in Australia.

So, what would i like to see? Id like halal certification to be a Government run organisation. Id like every business who pays for halal certification to have to display the stamp on their products. I want all Australian abattoirs to stun before killing. That would be a nice start

[icyfroth]

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@janeababe wrote:

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

"The Australian Muslim community are getting the benefit of the certifications. All money from halal services goes to the community."

Is that a problem?

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It seems to be a problem here.

Muslim haters, whinging about Halal Cert that doesnt directly interfer with their activities of daily living in any way!

Got nothing better to do than sterotype all muslims in the same Halal basket to make themselves feel more superior!

MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL!

I have met, spoken with, eaten with many muslim folk.
They are fantastic people. They are NOT ALL secretely trying to bomb us or become the next super-power!

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Fgs it's not about liking or disliking Muslims.

It's about Australian companies being virtually forced to pay a tax for a certification that is really only relevant to a small percentage of the Australian population.

And about the archaic and barbaric method of slaughter.

The fact that some of the revenue raised goes towards muslim colleges and institutions where anti-Western sentiment is taught,

That there's a well-founded suspicion that some of the funds raised from that tax is subverted to support the attacks by Islamic fighters against the West.

It deserves a Senate inquiry.

[colic2bullsgirlore]

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@azureline** wrote:

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@daydream**believer wrote:

just curious grizz, do you slaughter pigs at your work?

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Pigs are usually killed at a specific abattoir......they need different equipment, different yards, different everything, they stress very easily. I doubt there is one that does both.

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poppycock^^^^^^^

Pigs are usually killed on a different chain...same abbs different chain..... see the link below

http://www.aussieabattoirs.com/facts/directory

The point I think is that all the meat is chilled with the same recirculating air in the same cool rooms separated only by plastic and cardboard.

An ink stamp changes meat from halal to non halal.... and vice versa........... I have blessed and unblessed thousands

upon thousands of cartons

[azureline**]

Shall I rephrase that for you? Those abbatoirs that do would not get certification.

You aren't paying any kind of tax other than GST. Production costs are borne by the company.To get the market they also advertise.....should you complain about that too?

[pct001wine]

The fact that Cory Bernardi is behind this says it all.  A few kangaroos loose in the top paddock there.

"Senate Enquiry" lol    Yep, that'll fix it.  What's next ? A Royal Commission ?

[bushies.girl]

If that what it takes to stop this halal labeling garage, then why not?   Why cant they just read the ingredients on the back of the label, like everyone else has to do?

[grandmoon]

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@pct001wine wrote:

The fact that Cory Bernardi is behind this says it all.  A few kangaroos loose in the top paddock there.

"Senate Enquiry" lol    Yep, that'll fix it.  What's next ? A Royal Commission ?

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Lets hope that the inquiry highlights the amount of tax's the companies who have Halal certifcation pay and the number of people they employ here in Australia.  

And the effect of the cerfication on the export businesses.

[pct001wine]

And when I last looked no-one is forcing you to eat Halal-certified foods. You have a choice.

There are plenty of businesses out there that you can give your money to, like Sanitarium (lol).

As long as you keep away from Cadburys and Vegemite, the world will be a better place for your morally uprighteous stance.  Lots of websites out there where you can source non-Halal tucker, with the side-benefit of identifying and harrassing Australian companies that have the temerity of making a BUSINESS DECISION to seek Halal accreditation to improve the reach of their products.

The ignorance is staggering.

[bushies.girl]

Whatever!

[azureline**]

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@grandmoon wrote:

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@pct001wine wrote:

The fact that Cory Bernardi is behind this says it all.  A few kangaroos loose in the top paddock there.

"Senate Enquiry" lol    Yep, that'll fix it.  What's next ? A Royal Commission ?

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Lets hope that the inquiry highlights the amount of tax's the companies who have Halal certifcation pay and the number of people they employ here in Australia.  

And the effect of the cerfication on the export businesses.

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It won't make any difference to some, they will just either ignore the results or make accusations that the inquiry was biased. They don't really want to know the reality, they will then have to find another outlet for their vengeance and bigotry.

[*pepe]

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@azureline** wrote:

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@grandmoon wrote:

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@pct001wine wrote:

The fact that Cory Bernardi is behind this says it all.  A few kangaroos loose in the top paddock there.

"Senate Enquiry" lol    Yep, that'll fix it.  What's next ? A Royal Commission ?

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Lets hope that the inquiry highlights the amount of tax's the companies who have Halal certifcation pay and the number of people they employ here in Australia.  

And the effect of the cerfication on the export businesses.

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It won't make any difference to some, they will just either ignore the results or make accusations that the inquiry was biased. They don't really want to know the reality, they will then have to find another outlet for their vengeance and bigotry.

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that is a really bigoted and inflammatory statement to make.

I don't see the OP as bigoted - she has genuine concerns.