on 15-05-2015 01:42 PM
Brilliant.
Whether people support halal certification or not, there are lots of people with lots of concerns so its time to investigate it all.
http://www.3aw.com.au/news/bernardis-inquiry-into-food-certification-schemes-20150514-gh1c32.html
Here are the reasons i am against halal certification and the questions i want answered.
1. Why are the fees paid by businesses for halal certification kept secret? Why do the businesss have to sign non disclosure agreements?
2. Why are there 20+ privately run halal certification companies in Australia, all charging whatever amounts they want, when Indonesia only has 1 Government run halal certifier? If foods need to be halal certified, then let the Government run it and let the money go back into the whole Australian community.
3. For meat to be halal, the animal needs to be slaughtered a certain way, throat slit while animal is conscious by a Muslim. Yes, there are some abattoirs that use a reverse stun but, from what i have researched, there are at least 15 abattoirs in Australia that slaughter animals using no stun. It is barbaric. This video is very graphic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAQJ-FZo1cA
4. Australia is a predominantly Christian country, so why are we being forced to eat meat that has been prayed over to a "god" that we dont even recognise?
5. If halal certification is supposed to help Muslims recognise what they can and cant eat, then why do so many companies that pay for the certification stamp choose not to display it on their products?
6. Why are abattoirs paying a certification fee and then packing all the meat in one truck and delivering it to butchers and supermarkets who then put it all in the one fridge and display it all in the one display fridge. Once pork products are shelved, stored or transported with other meats, the other meats immediately become non halal anyway. So Aussie Muslims cant eat it anyway.
7. We are told halal certification monies goes towards to building of more mosques and Islamic schools. We know that there are quite a few mosques where the hatred of Australia is preached. As for Islamic schools, the same schools where a principal has said that girls are forbidden to run in races because it will cause them to lose their virginity. Do we need schools like that here?
8. In Canada halal certification money was found to be used to fund organisations linked to extremist organisations. I have no doubt that would be happening here as well.
9. Halal is a part of sharia law and we DO NOT want any part of Sharia law in Australia.
So, what would i like to see? Id like halal certification to be a Government run organisation. Id like every business who pays for halal certification to have to display the stamp on their products. I want all Australian abattoirs to stun before killing. That would be a nice start
on 20-05-2015 08:57 PM
@icyfroth wrote:
@gleee58 wrote:
@azureline** wrote:
@grandmoon wrote:
@pct001wine wrote:The fact that Cory Bernardi is behind this says it all. A few kangaroos loose in the top paddock there.
"Senate Enquiry" lol Yep, that'll fix it. What's next ? A Royal Commission ?
Lets hope that the inquiry highlights the amount of tax's the companies who have Halal certifcation pay and the number of people they employ here in Australia.
And the effect of the cerfication on the export businesses.
It won't make any difference to some, they will just either ignore the results or make accusations that the inquiry was biased. They don't really want to know the reality, they will then have to find another outlet for their vengeance and bigotry.
Yes, it suits their agenda to cause people fear.
They are having another wind power inquiry too. All members except one, as far as I can tell, are wind power haters.
From what I hear about the detrimental health effects on ppl living in close proximity to wind turbines, they're hated with good reason.
Constant headaches, sleeplessness, depression.
REALLY, none of these disorders or others like high blood pressue existed before windfarms, There are even reports of hens laying double yoke eggs.
on 20-05-2015 10:36 PM
@tezza2844 wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:
@gleee58 wrote:
@azureline** wrote:
@grandmoon wrote:
@pct001wine wrote:The fact that Cory Bernardi is behind this says it all. A few kangaroos loose in the top paddock there.
"Senate Enquiry" lol Yep, that'll fix it. What's next ? A Royal Commission ?
Lets hope that the inquiry highlights the amount of tax's the companies who have Halal certifcation pay and the number of people they employ here in Australia.
And the effect of the cerfication on the export businesses.
It won't make any difference to some, they will just either ignore the results or make accusations that the inquiry was biased. They don't really want to know the reality, they will then have to find another outlet for their vengeance and bigotry.
Yes, it suits their agenda to cause people fear.
They are having another wind power inquiry too. All members except one, as far as I can tell, are wind power haters.
From what I hear about the detrimental health effects on ppl living in close proximity to wind turbines, they're hated with good reason.
Constant headaches, sleeplessness, depression.
REALLY, none of these disorders or others like high blood pressue existed before windfarms, There are even reports of hens laying double yoke eggs.
yolk
on 21-05-2015 05:09 PM
Oh dear, it looks like one or two people here might have to cross Hugh Jackman off their Christmas card list - shame on you, Hugh, how could you be so unpatriotic?
on 21-05-2015 05:21 PM
In Germany many wind turbines are rotting rusted hulks because they were a hugely expensive failure.
There’s no way I could ever give permission for these bird killers to go on my land.
on 21-05-2015 05:23 PM
halal certification doesn't really bother me either way.. but last night we watched this segment on Charlie Pickering 's show and we thought it pretty good
https://newmatilda.com/2015/05/21/watch-charlie-pickering-takes-cory-bernardi-and-halal-truthers
on 21-05-2015 05:50 PM
@windshutter wrote:In Germany many wind turbines are rotting rusted hulks because they were a hugely expensive failure.
There’s no way I could ever give permission for these bird killers to go on my land.
How many birds are killed by wind turbines?
How many birds are killed by wind power compared to people killed slowly by coal power stations, coal mines and coal transportation?
Do some research and you'll find there are relatively few birds and bats killed each year by wind turbines and no people have ever been killed or diseased by them.
on 21-05-2015 06:00 PM
Great viewing, Deb; thanks for the link . I missed watching it last night. Some of the comments were pretty good too - I especially liked this one:
If you don't want to buy Halal how will you know it is Halal unless there is a sticker.
So be grateful there's a sticker on Halal products. When you see it you can immediately drop whatever it is and run screaming and foaming at the mouth out of the store and preferably under a bus!
on 21-05-2015 06:01 PM
yes, we thought it was pretty good She-ele. First time we watched that show was last night.
Might watch it again next week too
on 21-05-2015 06:07 PM
@windshutter wrote:In Germany many wind turbines are rotting rusted hulks because they were a hugely expensive failure.
There’s no way I could ever give permission for these bird killers to go on my land.
I guess that is why they keep building more, and refurbishing the old ones with new technology and get almost 10% of their power from them.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/feb/10/germany-leads-record-wind-power-growth-in-europe
And how many birds get killed by flying into wires? Maybe you should all stop driving because birds do sometimes hit windscreens and die.
on 21-05-2015 09:29 PM