Senate inquiry into Halal certification.

[daydream**believer]

Brilliant.

Whether people support halal certification or not, there are lots of people with lots of concerns so its time to investigate it all.

http://www.3aw.com.au/news/bernardis-inquiry-into-food-certification-schemes-20150514-gh1c32.html

Here are the reasons i am against halal certification and the questions i want answered.
1. Why are the fees paid by businesses for halal certification kept secret? Why do the businesss have to sign non disclosure agreements?

2. Why are there 20+ privately run halal certification companies in Australia, all charging whatever amounts they want, when Indonesia only has 1 Government run halal certifier? If foods need to be halal certified, then let the Government run it and let the money go back into the whole Australian community.

3. For meat to be halal, the animal needs to be slaughtered a certain way, throat slit while animal is conscious by a Muslim. Yes, there are some abattoirs that use a reverse stun but, from what i have researched, there are at least 15 abattoirs in Australia that slaughter animals using no stun. It is barbaric. This video is very graphic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAQJ-FZo1cA

4. Australia is a predominantly Christian country, so why are we being forced to eat meat that has been prayed over to a "god" that we dont even recognise?

5. If halal certification is supposed to help Muslims recognise what they can and cant eat, then why do so many companies that pay for the certification stamp choose not to display it on their products?

6. Why are abattoirs paying a certification fee and then packing all the meat in one truck and delivering it to butchers and supermarkets who then put it all in the one fridge and display it all in the one display fridge. Once pork products are shelved, stored or transported with other meats, the other meats immediately become non halal anyway. So Aussie Muslims cant eat it anyway.

7. We are told halal certification monies goes towards to building of more mosques and Islamic schools. We know that there are quite a few mosques where the hatred of Australia is preached. As for Islamic schools, the same schools where a principal has said that girls are forbidden to run in races because it will cause them to lose their virginity. Do we need schools like that here?

8. In Canada halal certification money was found to be used to fund organisations linked to extremist organisations. I have no doubt that would be happening here as well.

9. Halal is a part of sharia law and we DO NOT want any part of Sharia law in Australia.

So, what would i like to see? Id like halal certification to be a Government run organisation. Id like every business who pays for halal certification to have to display the stamp on their products. I want all Australian abattoirs to stun before killing. That would be a nice start

[daydream**believer]

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@djlukjilly wrote:

Not to cast aspersions on any lifestyle choice or religion I believe products that have this certification is garnering  money that goes to support a religion that a lot of people do not adhere to and do not want to support.

If the  certification is so important to the Muslim religion then why are producers being charged for it? it should carry no charge.

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and why are some products that are paying the halal certification fees choosing not display the stamp on their products? How is that helping Muslims make the right choices?

[daydream**believer]

http://billmuehlenberg.com/2015/04/13/defending-halal-and-jeopardising-the-west/

http://billmuehlenberg.com/2014/09/02/halal-certification-follow-the-money/

[iapetus_rocks]

and why are some products that are paying the halal certification fees choosing not display the stamp on their products? How is that helping Muslims make the right choices?

Maybe the companies want their bread buttered on both sides, gaining the market for halal-compliant foods while at the same time concealing the halal-cerification label so as to continue to sell to non-Muslims who probably aren't even aware that they are buying halal-certified food?

[bluecat*dancing]

LOL.

[the_great_she_elephant]

what on earth are you talking about?

I drink water, but not because it is "halal" or permissable.

You said 'to me water is not 'halal'. The word halal means permissable. Therefore,what you are actually saying is  "to me, water is not permissable.  (i.e. I am not allowed to drink it),"

[azureline**]

Manufacturing processes, plastics used....... why shouldn't they if they think it necessary.

[moonflyte]

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@daydream**believer wrote:

http://billmuehlenberg.com/2015/04/13/defending-halal-and-jeopardising-the-west/

http://billmuehlenberg.com/2014/09/02/halal-certification-follow-the-money/

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Very enlightening articles, obviously we all need to educate ourselves a lot more rather than believe politicians and media propaganda.

[debra9275]

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/horrific-abuse-of-australian-cattle-in-israeli...

god I hate this animal cruelty:

this time it's Israel

[polksaladallie]

There was an article on TV about a Queensland farmer who is getting very rich by breeding and exporting goats.

As far as I know, there has been nothing about their treatment at the destinations yet.

I would guess it would be the same.

[pct001wine]

Let's face it, if you eat meat or animal-derived products, you are legitimising and condoning cruelty. 

It doesn't matter whether an animal is killed in a manner to be compliant with Muslim, Jewish or any other religious or societal practices, it is still killed.  If its throat is cut, or it gets shot, or gets a bolt to the head, or a massive hook in its mouth and its head cut off, it is still being killed.

I defy anyone to tell me that the most "humane" animal killing factories (some call them abbatoirs) do not inflict fear and pain on animals.

Picking on the bogeyman (today it's the Muslims) only serves to show what a shallow mob we are by turning a blind eye to the deliberate cruelty inflicted on animals by people of just about every creed, colour, religion and nationality, including ourselves.  It makes us feel good about ourselves when we can pick on another mob we deem to be doing it in a worse way. 

Yep, big pat on the back and warm fuzzies for us now that we have spoken out about ritual Halal slaughter - at the same time ignoring our own horrific treatment of animals.  Hypocrisy anyone ?