on 08-01-2014 12:51 PM
On what should've been a carefree trip to a theme park with friends, Nicole felt so much shame that it spurred the obese young woman to change things for the better.
It took three staff members to help jam her oversized figure into a roller-coaster seat. She was so humiliated that she didn't go on any other rides that day.
Now aged 23 and happily married to husband Jay, she has overhauled her bad habits, especially her diet.
"I used to have a few rounds of white toast with full-fat butter for breakfast. Now it's still toast, but wholemeal bread with cereals as well," she says.
Nicole says she had no confidence as a bigger woman and hated shopping for clothes.
She also had to go to the emergency room twice because her mass affected her breathing, which led to panic attacks.
But now she says her confidence is restored ... and she's not afraid to visit a theme park.
"After what happened at the theme park, I was so proud to be able to go scuba diving. I now feel amazing compared to what I used to be like and I'm so pleased with the achievement," she says.
So what's the moral of the Story?
on 08-01-2014 01:43 PM
@nevillesdaughter wrote:The signs are everywhere for all to see (ditto smoking, drugs, sloth etc), sort of like mass advertising - it's just that not everyone can be bothered to read I guess....
Marina.
So if I was out there shaming people, I'm doing God's work?
on 08-01-2014 01:45 PM
on 08-01-2014 01:52 PM
Only if you shame them righteously, kindness in your heart and good intentions.
Now stop trying to make me sound like some sort of crazed God-botherer, or I'll put a curse on you.
Marina.
on 08-01-2014 01:59 PM
"I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock {with} one shepherd.
He has other folds. Also.
on 08-01-2014 02:01 PM
@*jimmy1717* wrote:"I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock {with} one shepherd.
He has other folds. Also.
Cool - I always say "To each his/her own".
Marina.
on 08-01-2014 03:09 PM
Quote: '
God loves all people but He/She knows it's not good for us to be fat - He/She didn't make us fat!
Marina.' end quote
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We're all links / beads
Our blueprint is set at the moment of conception. Takes less than a second to decide a person's eye and hair colour, skin-tone, bone-structure, facial features, hair texture and thickness, fat or thin ankles, musculature, tendency to gain or lose weight easily, liklihood of migraines, certain cancers, risk of stroke/heart diseases, freckles, disposition, etc. etc.
Ignorance of course is unaware of the above. Ignorance relies for its information on women's magazines and tv commercials
So, important to gain an education
I have twins. Same diet, same environment, same everything
One twin cannot put on weight no matter how hard they try
The other twin finds it difficult to lose weight
One twin eats several meals per day
The other twin has to watch every mouthful
One twin was for years smug and attributed their twin's weight to 'calories in'
Now, in yet another case of finding their backsides with their own hands, researchers are acknowledging what anyone with a quarter brain could have told them throughout the past two thousand years at least, i.e., some people are genetically predisposed to weight gain, courtesy of the genes bequeathed them by one or more of their half million ancestors
Some people are regarded as being at risk for heart and other diseases. And this in turn influences their ability to gain insurance in addition to influencing their decision as to whether or not to have children who might also inherit health problems
Some people are at risk of developing breast cancer as in the recent and highly publicised case of Angelina Jolie
Some people inherit a 'tall' gene. This influences their life in many ways
Others inherit the 'short' gene and again, this influences many factors in their lives and decisions
Some people inherit a tendency to gain weight
Those who inherit a heightened risk of cancer are granted sympathy and understanding. No one would dare claim in a forum or elsewhere --- ' God loves all people but He/She knows it's not good for us to be cancer-prone- He/She didn't make us all cancer prone !
No one would dare state online or elsewhere, ' God loves all people but He/She knows it's not good for us to be mentally challenged. He/She didn't make us all mentally challenged ! '
Nor would anyone dare claim, ' God loves all people but He/She knows it's not good for us to have Downs Syndrome. He/She didn't make us all Mongoloids ! '
Would anyone dare say, ' God loves all people but He/She knows it's not good for us to be Gay. He/She didn't make us all Gay ! ' ?
And no --- for all those who rush to scour a poster's buying history -- no, I'm not overweight as photos viewed by several Ebay forumites attest. But I do scour ebay for clothing to fit the prone-to-heaviness twin. When that twin succeeds by sheer will and struggle to lose weight, all those clothes go to the OP shop. And are recycled on ebay in the fullness of time, no doubt. Then, if that twin puts weight on again, I go through the same process
It's easy for me and for the slim twin to lose weight. Difficult for the other twin who's far more careful about they eat
Wouldn't life be wonderful if people were far more careful about what they say online ? Oh yes
So this post is for all those who are sitting silently, being hurt as intended by malicious posters
For those who would not DARE insult those who were born gay or physically handicapped --- why do you believe you're entitled to insult those who inherited a tendency to gain weight ? Why ?
on 08-01-2014 03:14 PM
@nevillesdaughter wrote:Only if you shame them righteously, kindness in your heart and good intentions.
Now stop trying to make me sound like some sort of crazed God-botherer, or I'll put a curse on you.
Marina.
There's righteousness in shaming people to get them to do what you want them to do???
Oh dear.
08-01-2014 03:29 PM - edited 08-01-2014 03:30 PM
A year or so ago, a documentary revealed what happened to a dozen or more people who'd agreed to take part in an experiment
The experiment wanted to record to film what happened when slim people adopted a supposedly 'fat' diet
The test subjects had to consume at least 2000 junk calories every 24 hours, from memory. On their required-food list were chocolate bars, snack bars, fizzy drinks, pizza, cakes, etc.
The test subjects admitted that after a few days on this regimen, they felt sick at the thought of consuming another chocolate bar. Viewers saw them forcing down the junk
At the end of the experiment, all the test subjects were weighed and measured and these figures were compared to their pre-experiment data
All the test subjects put on weight. Most often, it showed on their midriff area
except for one test subject
That test subject was Japanese. He had no fat around his middle at all, unlike all the others
instead, the Japanese test subject had gained muscle ! His body showed no ill-effects as result of the junk diet
nor had the Japanese test subject exercised any more or any differently to the other test subjects
Genetics !
Gave the researchers (and viewers) something to ponder
08-01-2014 03:55 PM - edited 08-01-2014 03:58 PM
Last time the subject of body-weight arose in this board (not long ago) I was mocked by certain posters when I suggested environmental factors have had a marked effect on the weight of populations
As evidence, I suggested people look at photos and film etc. from the 50s, 60s, 70s
I suggested that fluoride in our water
genetically modified foods
irradiated foods
toxins delivered via Chemtrails
played a significant role in the weight gain of populations
In response, smarty pants -- believing I was attempting to justify my own body shape -- retorted, ' No, eating too much makes people fat ' etc. Because they believed I must be overweight and because they spend their time looking through posters' ebay purchases instead of attending to their own homes, own children, own marriages, own lives
Again, I suggest people jettison their preconceived notions and take a look at films, tv commericals, still photos -- particularly family photos -- from the 50s, 60s and 70s. Take a look at those from 1910, 1920, 1930 and 1940 also if inclined
What those photos and films etc. will make clear is that people were not overweight, generally speaking, when food was mostly unadulterated
People back then didn't need to diet. We were naturally and consistenttly slim and lean, despite we ate butter, drank full cream milk and ate hamburgers, fish and chips, roast meals, desserts, chocolate, breads, etc. And many drank huge amounts of full-strength beer as part of their normal week
Yes, there were some back then who struggled with their weight. In most instances, they had an inherited weight problem. But the vast majority were slim and lean. And this was before gymnasiums, before diet companies. Most of us didn't exerise apart from walking/running for a train or bus or water-skiing occasionally, maybe some spent a week or so at skiing resorts in winter. But by and large, most people watched at least as much television then as today -- because tv then was the equivalent of computers today
Those with power of independent thought are aware that environmental factors imposed by multinational corporations are responsible for the so-called 'obesity crisis' which in fact is caused by chemicals in food, water, drinks, air, etc.
The fruit and vegetables we consume today are often years old before they're even put out for sale by supermarkets. They're rotten, but look 'fresh'. This is not a secret and has been revealed repeatedly by the media
Due to chemicals/toxins/poisons added to soil in the interest of 'bigger and more colourful' fruit and veggies, those items no longer contain more than a fraction of the nutrients of the fruit and vegetables eaten in childhood by many who frequent this board
As most of Australia's population lives in a handful of cities and large regional centres, they're mostly reliant for their food on supermarkets, rather than home-grown or fresh from the farm
In the attempt to gain sufficient nutrients, some take vitamin and mineral supplements. Few realise that the vast majority of ingredients for these supplements are produced in China
So to sum up: people in past decades were naturally slim and lean without resorting to exercise and despite being couch potatoes to a large degree -- and despite commonly consuming so-called 'taboo' foods of today such as bacon and eggs several times a week, hamburgers, fish and chips, cakes, pastries, desserts, full cream milk and butter, roast dinners, lard, etc. School rubbish bins back then were as filled with discarded apples, oranges and other fruits as they are today
What changed ? The environment changed. And the 'experts' know it --- but hope people never work it out
on 08-01-2014 04:57 PM
Just a quick note - nowhere did I insult, ridicule, blame or mock the overweight. The most I said was that it wasn't good for us.
The rest was some (intended) light-hearted back and forth between freethinker_bob and myself, more about religon than anything else.
If I offended anyone (including free-thinker_bob) I'm sorry, but it wasn't my intention. And I stand by my belief that if one is overweight, regardless of whether the cause is genetic, environmental, intake related or whatever, in the interest of good health, we owe it to ourselves to exert what controls we can.
Marina.