Shorten Sinking Fast

moonflyte
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Deadweight Shorten sinking fast

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Malcolm Turnbull’s ascension to the prime ministership has so dramatically transformed the political landscape that senior Labor figures across the nation are bracing for a potential bloodbath at the next election.

 

 

Extensive Labor polling and focus group research undertaken by the party’s national secretariat before Christmas shows that up to a dozen Labor-held seats are at risk of falling to the Liberals as voters recoil at the prospect of a Bill Shorten prime ministership.

Yet the research has also given Labor hope that a strong anti-GST campaign will help to hold some seats. But it reveals that a tax scare campaign may not be enough to stem the Turnbull tide in predominantly middle-class seats with a strong aspirational and entrepreneurial voter cohort.

 

The polling undertaken by pollsters UMR in marginal seats — which included individual assessments of sitting members — has not been shared fully with MPs or with Shorten and his office. When combined with recent polling by several state branches, it makes for very bleak reading for Labor.

 

In NSW, the party faces the loss of Julie Owens’s seat of Parramatta and has cause to fear that Tanya Plibersek’s seat of Sydney and Matt Thistlethwaite’s seat of Kingsford-Smith are in danger. Richmond, held by Justine Elliot, is also a concern. There is no hope the party can win the marginal Liberal seat of Reid, held by Craig Laundy. But Labor is eyeing the Liberal seat of Dobell, held by Karen McNamara, and Nickolas Varvaris’s seat of Barton.

 

In Victoria, four seats are at risk: Chisholm and Bruce, both with retiring MPs; Isaacs, held by Mark Dreyfus; and Melbourne Ports, held by Michael Danby. The party is less concerned about ­McEwen, held by Rob Mitchell, and Bendigo, held by Lisa Chesters. Labor has not given up on winning back Sarah Henderson’s seat of Corangamite and Jason Wood’s seat of LaTrobe.

 

Elsewhere, the figures are not as bad. There are concerns that Labor’s Terri Butler is in a tight contest in the Queensland seat of Griffith and there is some worry about Wayne Swan in Lilley and Graham Perrett in Moreton. The Liberal-held seat of Hindmarsh in South Australia has been polled, showing Labor is competitive.

 

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/troy-bramston/dead-weight-shorten-sinking-fast-in...

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i only ask because I've tried searching for what you say but can't find anything like it, but I'll admit my search skills aren't as well developed as some.

I'm genuinely curious who is saying this and how it can be defined as "the buzz".

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@djilukjilly wrote:

It was discussed on Sky with a Labor MP.


yes agree with Lurker, it would be good to know exactly who the Labor MP was thanks djilukjilly

 

 

did Sky also report that abbott had an "exclusive" meeting with Obama- we know that wasn't true

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moonflyte
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It was on PVO and I can't recall the politicians name,

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Right, so it was so important and "buzzy" that no one else seems to know about it and you can't remember who "buzzed".  Good-oh.

 

 

You you should watch Would I Lie To You on the ABC.  They tell quite credible sounding tales too, until they are asked to provide details.

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@lurker172602 wrote:

Right, so it was so important and "buzzy" that no one else seems to know about it and you can't remember who "buzzed".  Good-oh.

 

 

You you should watch Would I Lie To You on the ABC.  They tell quite credible sounding tales too, until they are asked to provide details.


Whats up with you, I was trying to be helpful

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moonflyte
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Collapsing support for Bill Shorten in his home state to levels ­endured by Julia Gillard before she was dumped as prime minister in 2013 has forced a rethink of the way the major parties will fight the federal election in Victoria.

 

The Labor Party has all but surrendered ambitions of winning the crucial eastern suburbs Liberal-held marginal of Deakin and ­instead has switched its focus to battler areas most exposed to any rise in the GST.

 

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/bill-shortens-vote-slump-forces-an-alp-strategic-re...

 

 

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Nothing's up.  You said "The buzz word going around Labor is ABA which means anybody but Albanese".  I was simply trying to establish the veracity of that.  No biggy.

 

Anyway, I'd love to hang around and chat about the importance of being able to substantiate things stated as fact but I gotta fly.  Literally.

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Being a buzz word means it's general talk. No need for substantiation.

 

Have a good holiday Lurks Woman Happy

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esayaf
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The contention is that it hasn't been the "buzz" since November last year. Therefore it requires substantiation that it still is
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so how about posting substantiation that it isn't?

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