Should the Australian Navy know the position of it's ships at all times?

[donnashuggy]

What is that saying, once is a mistake twice is a coincidence, I read 5 times last night.

Do you think they went into Indonesian Waters on purpose?

Did they get caught out?

Is the apology believable?

Was it just an accident that it happened 5 times?

[the_hawk*]

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@margomeoz wrote:

Can someone please tell me why they are towing the boats back to Indonesia in the first place?

The boats may have come from there but the people on them didn't.

I know a lot of Indonesians who have tried living here legally and they could not wait to go home they love their country so why do they have to take what we send back?

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anyone who enters a country illegally always gets returned to the last point of departure, not to their home land and it then becomes that countries problem.

and that is exactly what needs to be done to make Indonesia be responsible for allowing people smugglers to freely operate in their country or it will never stop.

[icyfroth]

I see Idonesia says it is going to increase naval patrols of the Indian Ocean after Australia's incursion.

Mr Barnas says that three Navy ships have been sent to the region where Australia is understood to have been turning back asylum seeker boats. Another Naval Frigate will also be sent to the area.

He says it reflects Indonesia's commitment to stopping what Indonesia calls illegal migrants.

Read More Here

Now they start?

[the_hawk*]

He says it reflects Indonesia's commitment to stopping what Indonesia calls illegal migrants.

I think he means the countries people smugging economy for his country

[margomeoz]

Well hawk I don't believe it is right the reason people try to come here is because it is so bad in their country it is not really Indosenia's fault they use them as a stop off point.

There but for the grace of God and all that, if we did not have such a great country people might be getting into boats from here to go elsewhere, but we do and we should share it.

That after all is how we got here.

[colic2bullsgirlore]

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@the_hawk* wrote:

He says it reflects Indonesia's commitment to stopping what Indonesia calls illegal migrants.

I think he means the countries people smugging economy for his country

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I think he means stopping/ intercepting the illegal migrants that Australia is smuggling from international waters back to Indonesian waters

[the_hawk*]

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@margomeoz wrote:

Well hawk I don't believe it is right the reason people try to come here is because it is so bad in their country it is not really Indosenia's fault they use them as a stop off point.

There but for the grace of God and all that, if we did not have such a great country people might be getting into boats from here to go elsewhere, but we do and we should share it.

That after all is how we got here.

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Indonesia is making lots of money from this and thats why they dont want to stop it, technically it is Indonesia's problem and they should be tuning them back to their last point of departure and not assisting the people smugglers to get them to another country.

[*mrgrizz*]

the answer is NO

if they are on a mission they don't want to make any noise to alert the enemy of their position

[just_me_karen]

Hawk, explain how they are making money?

Grizz, are you saying our modern navy ships don't need to know where they are? Have you seen the navigation systems on those ships?

[the_hawk*]

They are making money out of it because a lot of money is greasing palms to start with, then the people smuglers are buying food, paying to keep the illegal immigrants some place, they buying boats that would other wise be scrapped, paying local fisherman to captain and crew the boats, this all brings money into the Indonesian economy.

I would have thought a smart person would have worked it out

[icyfroth]

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@*mrgrizz* wrote:

the answer is NO

if they are on a mission they don't want to make any noise to alert the enemy of their position

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