22-09-2014 08:59 AM - edited 22-09-2014 09:00 AM
on 23-09-2014 08:38 PM
Nor was there in the bible and most christian people don't live by it in it's original form.
on 23-09-2014 08:43 PM
Heaps of verses in the bible simular
Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. Yet she will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith and love and holiness, with self-control
23-09-2014 08:46 PM - edited 23-09-2014 08:47 PM
Not a reply to anyone in particular
I am offended by bogans. I would rather be out and about passing by Muslim women in Burka's than bogans (swearing, anti social behaviour)
How many women in Australia that wear burka's are convicted criminals? Not many I wouldn't think.
The Govt is after people engaging in criminal activities - that doesn't equate to lets ban the burka.
on 23-09-2014 09:28 PM
Provided that one's religious or cultural beliefs and practices, including manner of dress, do not contravene the law, are not used as an excuce to contravene the law, do not infringe upon or limit the legal, moral and human rights of others...........fill yer boots, wear what you want, pray to who you want, how you want, when you want and where you want.
...............try and use your religious or cultural beliefs and practices as a reason to stop somebody else enjoying the same rights as you demand, expect, deserve and receive in this country, breach the law by practicing same or demand/force others to convert to your belief system in order to avoid offence to you, then we'll have a very, very different conversation.
On the other hand, blokes that get around with their dacks pulled down so far you're forced to see the full horror of their undies and plumbers crack MUST HANG.*
*(this statement refers solely to dimwits that believe it's some form of fashion statement to display their reggies and bike parking spot to the world in general and is no reflection of my opinion of plumbers or any other tradies or people at large engaged in tasks that may, on occasion, result in their durps being inadvertently displayed to the general public).
on 23-09-2014 10:40 PM
I have not read through so have no idea.
It is just my opinion that with current events as they are, maybe faces should be kept clear as it leaves too much opportunity for the 'wrong' person to be hiding under there, as with helmets,
Up until now I had not given any thought to what anyone wears really as long as everyone wore something. Oh and bicycle racks covered would be good.
23-09-2014 11:19 PM - edited 23-09-2014 11:21 PM
The dress of form-concealing burqas and face-concealing niqabs .
I have to ask the Sumnerian question . . . :why is it so?"
Why should women have to dress like this in the first place? Does anyone believe that it is just a colourful, quaint and innocent form of fashionable cultural expression?
It is not.
Niqabs which conceal the face and chadors which conceal the body etc, etc, and there's one which just conceals the hair. It doesn't really matter the degree of the form taken.
What really matters is that religions and /or cultures which espouse these dress codes for women, see women as second-class citizens. and the influence of such people and their religions (if they support such discrimination) should be opposed.
To wear the burqa or the niqab or even the hijab is to proclaim ones self as a second class citizen; it is to wear the badge of one who is subordinate and downtrodden.
on 23-09-2014 11:58 PM
That's not really true. Boys at my sons' school had to wear a tie and had to have their shirt tucked in. Boys also would not be allowed at the school until they had a suitable haircut above the collar. They must have been second class citizens compared to the girls that could let their locks flow and have their collars open.
on 24-09-2014 12:07 AM
You're comparing apples with oranges.
Tell me, do you know why women choose to wear the niqab?
24-09-2014 12:09 AM - edited 24-09-2014 12:10 AM
Also, j*oono, would the girls have been allowed to wear a short back and sides haircut and go to school in trousers or shorts?
It's a different argument, though with a few similarities.
on 24-09-2014 09:32 AM
In an interview on the ABC's Insiders program, Senator Lambie was asked what she understood sharia law to mean.
"Well I think when it comes to sharia law, to me ... it obviously involves terrorism ... involves a power that's not a healthy power," she said.
Senator Lambie said she rejects sharia law.
Since there are so few burqa wearing women in Australia, I find it odd that it is so important to so many people. I wonder if they put more thought into it than Lambie?