22-09-2014 08:59 AM - edited 22-09-2014 09:00 AM
on 29-09-2014 12:09 PM
@azureline** wrote:Open to the public? well, I suppose so the doors are open when I am there.
It is the school Church, not every child in the school is of that faith but every child and their parents etc do go there for services.
so if i wanted to have a look inside because -
lets say - i like visiting churches - i would not
be allowed in if not dressed appropriately or is
the special dress only required during services ?
if there was an open day - would ppl be refused
entry if their heads were not covered?
on 29-09-2014 12:11 PM
@*julia*2010 wrote:
@***super_nova*** wrote:How incredibly rude of you. You would have met with similar request if you would have wanted to enter synagogue or many churches. Although some churches are are nowadays so desperate to get anybody in, they might let you in topless.
wow really?
and there was i thinking it had something
do to with progress and being welcoming to everyone.
no need to be checked in at the door.
Invitation to such events clearly state that there is a dress code. It is very rude to disregard it. And just as some restaurants will not let in people in thongs, without tops or in swimsuits, the people in the mosque have a right not to let people who do not comply with their request to dress modestly. People are invited to the mosque open day to learn more about Muslims, not to push their values on the Muslim community.
Dressing appropriately shows respect, arriving at any place of worship in bikini, is rude. And knowing that Muslims believe that women should not be showing bare skin on the street, trying to enter Mosque in bikini top is showing that they went there to insult , not to try understand the community.
on 29-09-2014 12:13 PM
@debra9275 wrote:oh and there is an Anglican church near us too everyone who goes in there is also fully dressed
would they refuse entry if you wanted to
have a look inside and was not 'fully' dressed?
same goes for the catholic church - would they
stop you at the door if you wanted to see inside?
on 29-09-2014 12:18 PM
Invitation to such events clearly state that there is a dress code.
if that was specified on the invitation then
that is fair enough.
if not then an open day should be open
to everyone with an opportunity to learn about
different customs.
at the end of the day - yes, it is their mosque and
their policies.
on 29-09-2014 12:21 PM
Myself and the g/f attended one of those mosque open days and I must say the hosts were most unfriendly. It was a most propitious event or so I thought. My g/f was wearing a pair of shorts and a bikini top. We were met at the entry by an ‘official’ who refused us entry until my g/f ‘covered up’. I told him that if we were in the M/E we would have to respect their way of dress but as the mosque was in Australia they should respect our customs and the way we dressed (on a hot day). We were quickly at an impasse; entry was ‘kindly’ refused and we insisted on observing our customs.
Which suggests to me that either:
a) Your and your gf are both as thick as two short planks and totally lacking in social graces.
b) The clothing was worn as a calculated insult to Muslim sensibilities..
c) She chose - or you encouraged her - to wear that clothing in the full knowledge that she would be refused admission and you would then have an excuse to come onto this forum and whinge about Muslims.
d) It never really happened and you are just making it up to justify your bigotry.
on 29-09-2014 12:23 PM
@*julia*2010 wrote:
@debra9275 wrote:oh and there is an Anglican church near us too everyone who goes in there is also fully dressed
would they refuse entry if you wanted to
have a look inside and was not 'fully' dressed?
same goes for the catholic church - would they
stop you at the door if you wanted to see inside?
I suspect most people who wanted to have a look (which I have done when I forgot I needed to have a head covering and a skirt) would just look in from the door, not go into the Church. It is very small and has pews with kneelers, an old style marble altar and confessional pews.
It is a Catholic Churc.
Regular Catholic Churches would probably expect you to not be in a bikini top.
on 29-09-2014 12:23 PM
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@*julia*2010 wrote:
@debra9275 wrote:oh and there is an Anglican church near us too everyone who goes in there is also fully dressed
would they refuse entry if you wanted to
have a look inside and was not 'fully' dressed?
same goes for the catholic church - would they
stop you at the door if you wanted to see inside?
I don't know, I have never tried to push the boundaries, but as I say everyone seems to go into those churches fuly dressed from what I;ve seen
on 29-09-2014 12:27 PM
Myself and the g/f attended one of those mosque open days and I must say the hosts were most unfriendly. It was a most propitious event or so I thought. My g/f was wearing a pair of shorts and a bikini top. We were met at the entry by an ‘official’ who refused us entry until my g/f ‘covered up’. I told him that if we were in the M/E we would have to respect their way of dress but as the mosque was in Australia they should respect our customs and the way we dressed (on a hot day). We were quickly at an impasse; entry was ‘kindly’ refused and we insisted on observing our customs.
We didn’t take any religious bias with us. We sure as hell didn't experience the wonderful openness you seem to advocate.
I think an experiment is in order. You and your g/f, wearing the same as attire as worn to the mosque, go to the places of worship of other faiths and see what the reactions are.
on 29-09-2014 12:27 PM
maybe they would let you in I don't know?, but everyone would point and laugh & I'd be really embarrassed if I was wearing a bikini in a church. It's just common sense wearing appropriate attire for different occasions
on 29-09-2014 12:29 PM
Why do they want women covered head to toe in a burqa when the Australian custom is for women to wear bikini tops, high heels etc... I would rather that than someone fully hidden. Not knowing even what is under there. Looks scary to me. I'd say 99.9999% of Aussie would prefer women in bikinies. Am I right?