Should the Burqa be banned in Australia

[nero_bolt]

Should the Burqa and Niqab be banned in Australia?

[alexander*beetle]

Ms Credlin said during the conversation that she supported people's right to wear the burqa in public. how very generous of her. I don't recall her being elected to parliament to voice her beliefs, opinions or anything else for that matter. She seems to be at every overseas meeting and was even on the front bench with Tony Abbott at the UN while  Dr Margot McCarthy, the Australian National Security Advisor was relegated to the back row. Seems very strange to have a Chief of Staff wielding so much power. No minister can do a press release without it being approved by her. etc. etc. Democracy, yep. 

Have to laugh at her commenting to not inflame community tensions while debating the head wear. Irony, yep.

[cherry*135]

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@punch*drunk wrote:

I think it's nit picking to ask for a ban on a burqa, when it is worn by so few people.

I dont disagree, personally I'm not concerned either way, but then I've never actually seen anyone wear one so not sure how I'd feel if I came across it. I understand how those living in an area more heavily populated by muslims could feel differently though.

I do think they should be required to remove them for identification purposes.

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NSW Law: 

 On 4 July 2011, New South Wales became the first Australian state to pass laws allowing police to demand that burqas (and other head gear such as motorcycle helmets) be removed when asking for identification.

Not sure what other States have same/similar.

[debra9275]

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/modified-security-system-to-be-trialled-at-parliament-house...

Az, yes they do security checks at parliament house. with MP's being recently exempted from them

[cherry*135]

Mainstream media when reporting incidents (like C Matthews) should be able to give an accurate description/name for garment worn.

In 2011, Carnita Matthews of Sydney was sentenced to six months jail for making a statement accusing a police officer of attempting to forcibly lift her niqaab, which news sources initially referred to incorrectly as a burqa.

The reference given for the comment about incorrect type of garment is an article from The Daily Telegraph , no suprise.

They types of garments Muslim women wear all have names, if people want to refer to those garments, then at least they could use the correct name for the one they are referring to.

[Anonymous]

tony abbott taking orders from a female?

well at least she has a face

[cherry*135]

well at least she has a face 

One like this most of the time

Peta Credlin backs burqa ban in Federal Parliament

Prime Minister Tony Abbott's most senior adviser, Peta Credlin, has told Liberal National MP George Christensen she is sympathetic to a burqa ban in Parliament House on security grounds, but warned him not to inflame community tensions while debating the head wear.

Her support for a ban will also potentially place pressure on Prime Minister Tony Abbott to make clear whether he supports a ban in Parliament House.

Mr Abbott said during last year's election campaign that he found the burqa "confronting" but people....

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/peta-credlin-backs-burqa-ban-in-federal-parlia...

[polksaladallie]

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@alexander*beetle wrote:

Ms Credlin said during the conversation that she supported people's right to wear the burqa in public. how very generous of her. I don't recall her being elected to parliament to voice her beliefs, opinions or anything else for that matter. She seems to be at every overseas meeting and was even on the front bench with Tony Abbott at the UN while  Dr Margot McCarthy, the Australian National Security Advisor was relegated to the back row. Seems very strange to have a Chief of Staff wielding so much power. No minister can do a press release without it being approved by her. etc. etc. Democracy, yep. 

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I, too, am alarmed at her power, but I think it's more to do with the lack of grey matter in the person she is shadowing that requires them to be joined at the hip.

[bushies.girl]

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/burqa-debate-tony-abbott-says-people-need-t...

[iapetus_rocks]

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@pct001wine wrote:

An offensive and factually incorrect image that has no place here.  You should take your fears elsewhere.

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What are you talking about? I only re-posted a pic from #385 from borisgary. There was nothing offensive when she posted it and nothing offensive when i posted it

[iapetus_rocks]

 to pct

You really need to read back and read my arguments, and not get distracted by troublemakers.

This was my post, containing a picture

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iapetus_rocks wrote:

I'd just like to comment on the picture posted above in post #385.

I'd ask this woman just why she was wearing an hijab, and if she said it was for religious reasons then I'd ask her why she is wearing lipstick and eye make-up and has had her eyebrows "sculptured" just a little.

Because, the exhortation in the koran is for women (and men) to dress modestly and the wearing of make-up is contrary to this.

Some Muslim women I have seen, wear the hijab and wear make-up and they also wear skin-tight jeans and form-hugging tops.

Now this is definitely not in the spirit of the Koranic instruction, is it?

I would say to this woman,

"Please stop trying to infringe my right and my social responsibility to argue for the equality of the sexes and against  systems (be they political or religious or even social) which exhert pressure on women to adopt a role of subjugated second class citizen to the men."

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