22-09-2014 08:59 AM - edited 22-09-2014 09:00 AM
on 02-10-2014 07:37 PM
It would be confronting for me to see a woman walk topless down the street in Australia so it also confronting to see women in our society wearing face coverings. The fact is that in this democratic society we are still working towards equality for the sexes - I am uneasy with only women wearing face coverings (whatever the level of covering and corresponding name of that covering) Can I travel to an Islamic country and freely walk uncovered there because that is my choice or because my religion does not require me to be covered.
02-10-2014 07:59 PM - edited 02-10-2014 07:59 PM
@monwill235 wrote:It would be confronting for me to see a woman walk topless down the street in Australia so it also confronting to see women in our society wearing face coverings. The fact is that in this democratic society we are still working towards equality for the sexes - I am uneasy with only women wearing face coverings (whatever the level of covering and corresponding name of that covering) Can I travel to an Islamic country and freely walk uncovered there because that is my choice or because my religion does not require me to be covered.
yes many Islamic countries you can walk around uncovered (not naked though). Three things I read today that make perfect sense to me and if Muslim women wearing face coverings are a "security risk", why then are they now to be forced to sit with school children in Parliament, the whole argument is ridiculous and divisive.
Nobel Peace Prize winner, Tawakkul Karman, ‘The mother of Yemen’s revolution,’ when asked about her Hijab by journalists and how it is not proportionate with her level of intellect and education, replied:
“Man in early times was almost naked, and as his intellect evolved he started wearing clothes. What I am today and what I’m wearing represents the highest level of thought and civilization that man has achieved, and is not regressive. It’s the removal of clothes again that is a regression back to the ancient times.”
Muslim women who choose to wear the burqa (and/ or niqab / chador) do so out of their own free will, believing it is an act of worship and a form of liberation from the objectification of women in modern society.
“My body is my business, and I shouldn’t have to defend what I wear to anyone. The burqa is part of my religion, and the fact that I choose to wear it does not make me any less human.” Ms. Yasmin, 21, Aus.
on 02-10-2014 08:31 PM
well that was quick
Tony Abbott kills off Parliament House 'burqa' ban
In an embarrassing back-down for the government, Fairfax Media has learnt Mr Abbott will ask Ms Bishop and Senator Pary to reconsider the proposal after an extraordinary backlash.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-kills-off-parliament-house-burqa-b...
on 02-10-2014 08:35 PM
@monwill235 wrote:It would be confronting for me to see a woman walk topless down the street in Australia so it also confronting to see women in our society wearing face coverings. The fact is that in this democratic society we are still working towards equality for the sexes - I am uneasy with only women wearing face coverings (whatever the level of covering and corresponding name of that covering) Can I travel to an Islamic country and freely walk uncovered there because that is my choice or because my religion does not require me to be covered.
Unless we are planning to engage in a game of political t*t for tat, I can't quite see how a restrictive dress code that may apply in other countries is in any way relevant to what we should or shouldn't do in Australia.
on 02-10-2014 09:26 PM
@boris1gary wrote:well that was quick
Tony Abbott kills off Parliament House 'burqa' ban
In an embarrassing back-down for the government, Fairfax Media has learnt Mr Abbott will ask Ms Bishop and Senator Pary to reconsider the proposal after an extraordinary backlash.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-kills-off-parliament-house-burqa-b...
lol, did anyone see the video of Lambie and Maha Abdo?
on 02-10-2014 10:49 PM
So Australia yeilds to the minority groups once again 😞
02-10-2014 11:06 PM - edited 02-10-2014 11:07 PM
I think the govt handled this issue very poorly.
All that was needed was to impose a ban on the wearing of all forms of face-covering attire by anyone entering any govt building.
on 02-10-2014 11:24 PM
on 02-10-2014 11:29 PM
@iapetus_rocks wrote:I think the govt handled this issue very poorly.
All that was needed was to impose a ban on the wearing of all forms of face-covering attire by anyone entering any govt building.
Despite the uproar and claims of discrimination against muslim women, it is a ban on all forms of face covering attire by anyone entering parliament house. I'm not sure it needs to be extended to all government buildings but I'm sure there are other places where security is an issue that it would appropriate.
on 03-10-2014 04:20 AM
Hardly backing down to a minority group when the backing down was to the Opposition, Greens, the Human Rights Commission and Muslim and Jewish groups.
Clearly the decision was wrong to do it in the first place.
Sugarcoat it any way you want about facial coverings, it was clearly about Muslim women as evidenced by what was actually talked about in Parliament.
Debate about the burka has heated up over the past week with several politicians, including Liberals Cory Bernardi and George Christensen and Palmer United Party senator Jacqui Lambie calling for it to be banned from Parliament House.
Senator Bernardi says the Islamic religious attire is “identity-concealing garb” and should be banned on security grounds, along with balaclavas and motorbike helmets.
“Muslim women will have gone through the entire screening process the same as everyone else. When they come into the building they should be treated the same as everyone else.
Including motorbike helmets in the same sentence is just ridiculous, motorbike helmets are designed to be worn on a bike.....................remember the outcry when they were made compulsory?