Should the Burqa be banned in Australia

[nero_bolt]

Should the Burqa and Niqab be banned in Australia?

[bushies.girl]

Just because you wouldn't find it intimidating, doesn't necessarily mean that someone else would feel the same way. Why can't you just accept that not everyone thinks/feels the same as you? I am able to accept that you have no problem with someone dressing like that, why not give other people the same respect?, instead of trying to push your point of view onto them? I often feel your comments are quite bullying towards others who don't share your point of view.

[cherry*135]

I did say that I don't know why people find a women wear a Burqa intimidating... no-one in this thread has ever given a real answer to that.

I have just as much right as anyone else to make posts putting across my view. Same as some others do, who would like to see the burqa banned.

As I have posted before this is a discussion.. should the Burqa be banned or not... that is what people do in a discussion.. put forward THEIR point of view pertaining to the question asked (in this case in the opening post).

I haven't seen any real discussion from you bg. Picking on my posts AGAIN, incorrectly asserting I am pushing my view on anyone... doesn't add to this discussion at all.

[azureline**]

Intimidation usually implies some kind of force......to me

Synonyms: intimidate, browbeat, bulldoze, cow2, bully1, bludgeon
These verbs all mean to frighten into submission, compliance, or acquiescence. Intimidate implies the presence or operation of a fear-inspiring force: "It [atomic energy] may intimidate the human race into bringing order into its international affairs" (Albert Einstein).
Browbeat suggests the persistent application of highhanded, disdainful, or imperious tactics: browbeating a witness.
Bulldoze connotes the leveling of all spirit of opposition: was bulldozed into hiring an unacceptable candidate.
Cow implies bringing out an abject state of timorousness and often demoralization: a dog that was cowed by abuse.
To bully is to intimidate through blustering, domineering, or threatening behavior: workers who were bullied into accepting a poor contract.
Bludgeon suggests the use of grossly aggressive or combative methods: had to be bludgeoned into fulfilling his duties.

[cherry*135]

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@iapetus_rocks wrote:

Like yours?

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Yes, of course. , no dodgy blog quotes from me ( not suggesting that you personally have quoted from them either).

[iapetus_rocks]

I think people find it intimidating because of what it represents, added to the discomfort they feel when having to talk to or otherwise interact with a person who is deliberately concealing their facial expressions.

"It is impossible for Western governments and international organizations to prevent the acid attacks or honor killings of women in Muslim countries who refuse to cover their faces, but why tie society's hands on Western soil?

Why would Western countries prize the subordination of women and protect it as a religious right at a time when many Muslim states refuse to do so?

When it is understood that the burqa is not a religious requirement but rather a political statement—at best merely an ethnic and misogynistic custom—there is no reason whatsoever for Western traditions of religious tolerance to misconstrue the covering of women as a religious duty at a time when the vast majority of Muslims do not see it as such."

Phyllis Chesler is emerita professor of psychology and women's studies at the Richmond College of the City University of New York and co-founder of the Association for Women in Psychology and the National Women's Health Network.

http://www.meforum.org/2777/ban-the-burqa

[azureline**]

Another word being used is confronting................

1. (usually foll by with) to present or face (with something), esp in order to accuse or criticize

2. to face boldly; oppose in hostility

3. to be face to face with; be in front of

4. to bring together for comparison

Neither seem to be correct, to me.

[bushies.girl]

Ah so once again, I am not entitled to an opinion re the way I interpret your posts, why am I not suprised lol

[cherry*135]

I think people find it intimidating because of what it represents, added to the discomfort they feel when having to talk to or otherwise interact with a person who is deliberately concealing their facial expressions.

A lot of people commenting in this thread see Muslim women (in burqa's) in passing when out and about, they don't need to talk or interact with them (same as they don't need to talk to any other people passing by), yet they still say they feel intimidated or confronted by them.

[cherry*135]

Your interpretation is not even correct.

How about making the burqa the subject of your posts instead of interpersonal comments.

[iapetus_rocks]

“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters, as well as all believing women, that they should draw over themselves some of their outer garments [when in public]: this will be more con¬ducive to their being recognised as decent women and not molested.”

http://www.iisna.com/articles/pamphlets/the-burqa-and-niqab-uncovering-the-facts/

To me, the above comment says more about Muslim men than it does about Muslim women.

The stated reason to wear covering garments is that the men not be tempted to abuse. This is a shocking indictment. and we should really consider whether it is the woman who should cover up in public, or the men who should decide to learn to behave as civilised people.