Should the Burqa be banned in Australia

[nero_bolt]

Should the Burqa and Niqab be banned in Australia?

[***super_nova***]

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@icyfroth wrote:

Frankly, it surprises me how so many ppl here who staunchly stand up for women's rights think the burqa is ok. It's a repressive garment which orthodox muslim men require women to be wear in public so they may not incite lustful urges in men. 

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Not always, some women choose to wear it, and if that is the case why should we tell them that they are not allowed to?  Some religious sects require their woman to wear long skirts; I think that is repressive too; maybe we should ban them too?

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@icyfroth wrote:

That's not even counting that the burqa by requirement is a concealing garment and as such is a security risk for a nation such as ours living under the threat of home-grown terrorism.

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Wig & dark sunglasses with large coat would be just as concealing, and much less noticeable.

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@icyfroth wrote:

Considering Australia interned German men and and USA whole Japanese families for the duration of World War II in the past, I don't understand the outrage of banning the burqa in public.

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Excuse me, but we are not in war with Islam, we are in war ISIL.  There are 1.5 billion of Muslims in the world and less than 0.01% have any connection to extremists.  And what does the burqa have to do with it anyway?  Do you think that if a Muslim terrorist wanted to commit criminal act he would dress in burqa?  It is the most ridiculous suggestion.  Criminals need to blend into a crowd................  

[icyfroth]

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

Frankly, it surprises me how so many ppl here who staunchly stand up for women's rights think the burqa is ok. It's a repressive garment which orthodox muslim men require women to be wear in public so they may not incite lustful urges in men. 

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Not always, some women choose to wear it, and if that is the case why should we tell them that they are not allowed to?  Some religious sects require their woman to wear long skirts; I think that is repressive too; maybe we should ban them too?

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@icyfroth wrote:

That's not even counting that the burqa by requirement is a concealing garment and as such is a security risk for a nation such as ours living under the threat of home-grown terrorism.

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Wig & dark sunglasses with large coat would be just as concealing, and much less noticeable.

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@icyfroth wrote:

Considering Australia interned German men and and USA whole Japanese families for the duration of World War II in the past, I don't understand the outrage of banning the burqa in public.

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Excuse me, but we are not in war with Islam, we are in war ISIL.

I know that. They're the ones causing the conflict.

There are 1.5 billion of Muslims in the world and less than 0.01% have any connection to extremists. 

Yes. However it's the minority of extremists that are beheading innocent ppl

And what does the burqa have to do with it anyway?  Do you think that if a Muslim terrorist wanted to commit criminal act he would dress in burqa? 

The burqa has a lot to do with it. It's a garment of concealment!  It can easily hide a suicide bomber's vest or other weapons. And they don't need to be men. Muslim women have been known to sacrifice themselves in the name of Islam as well.

It is the most ridiculous suggestion.  Criminals need to blend into a crowd................  

How better to blend in than to pose as a virtuous woman in a burqa which aussie police are too cowed to challenge because they could be perceived as racist?

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The burqa has a lot to do with it. It's a garment of concealment!  It can easily hide a suicide bomber's vest or other weapons. And they don't need to be men. Muslim women have been known to sacrifice themselves in the name of Islam as well.

So you aren't so much against the Burqa as ANY clothes that can conceal a weapon - be it backpack, suitcase pram etc. Or is there more to it....

How better to blend in than to pose as a virtuous woman in a burqa which aussie police are too cowed to challenge because they could be perceived as racist?

I think it would make you even more conspicuous than anyone else, especially in today's climate of misplaced distrust

[ufo_investigations]

The question shouldn't be whether the burqa should be banned. It should be all face coverings.

That is what they did in France. Face coverings in public places is banned.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_ban_on_face_covering

[cherry*135]

I get what you are saying... face coverings - balaclava, full face motorcycle helmets, burqa/niqab etc

But which of those above do people wear all the time when they are out in public, as a garment/item of clothing?

Does a motorcyclist take off his/her helmet before going into a cafe/pub for lunch?  And if they stop and have a walk down a beach or street, when they get to work? I think they would. Maybe in the past when making a quick trip into the bank they would leave it on. Now that is not so acceptable, but there are plenty of ATM's  if they just want cash out.

Apart from robbers, balaclavas are usually worn to protect the face from extreme cold weather, not 'street wear'

A  new law banning face coverings would be directly aimed at burqa/nijab wearers no matter what other item of headwear is included in the ban.

[i-need-a-martini]

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@icyfroth wrote:

Frankly, it surprises me how so many ppl here who staunchly stand up for women's rights think the burqa is ok. It's a repressive garment which orthodox muslim men require their women to wear in public so they may not incite lustful urges in men. 

HellOOO! 

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I think it is very presumptuous of us to make the assumption that women are forced to wear this just because we couldn't imagine wearing it ourselves.

Whilst in some countries due to extremist regimes (Taliban for example) they are forced by law, the majority of women I know choose it or are dressed in it by their mothers at a certain age.

A good example for me is the wife of a friend of my husbands. He is Egyptian Muslim although you wouldn't know it as he is not devout, drinks etc.His wedding was the first time 10 years ago was the first time it dawned on me that he WAS Muslim even tho he had mentioned it. His wife was a skinny little thing with big hair and lots of cleavage. After her first child she decided to wear the hijab. These days she wears a hijab and black robes but she doesn't cover her face. Our friend is still as non religious as ever so he doesn't care one way or another. The choice was hers. And her reason was simply that as she got older she was more comfortable covered up.

My neighbours across the road wear the niqab when out in public. I doubt if their menfolk care one way or another. I know that my neighbours husband certainly doesn't care cause we have had discussions about it. He says she wears it because it gives her an excuse not to do gardening!

[***super_nova***]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

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The choice was hers. And her reason was simply that as she got older she was more comfortable covered up.

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There was a time I wore mini only just covering my backside but now (well over 60) I generally wear something lot more covering, and there are days I wish I could cover my face  🙂

[lloydslights]

Ditto here, Supa

DEB

[lakeedge]

Not all acts of barbarism is acted out by isil. This graphic picture of a woman being prepared for stoning by being buried to the chest because she had a cell phone.

There is a huge question about the killing and abuse of women in islam, it can never be denied.

The burqa is just one of the tools used to subjugate and control women.

[azureline**]

We don't stone women in Australia.

Men who want to control women don't need the burqa.... or a Religion to do it.

Yesterday there was an article in the Sunday Mail and surprise surprise, Pauline Hanson was in on the burqa debate. Her reasons for the ban were just as silly.................. "all terrorists are Muslim"

She really has no idea.