Should the Burqa be banned in Australia

[nero_bolt]

Should the Burqa and Niqab be banned in Australia?

[polksaladallie]

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@micasheen wrote:

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@polksaladallie wrote:

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@micasheen wrote:

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@polksaladallie wrote:

Pakistan

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Pakistan is a radical fully islamic country where women are routinely killed. Please enlighten us to whare this "bikini clad" woman was? what beach? I do not believe you, no sane person could.

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You paint this picture of a country which seemingly hates its women, yet you refuse to believe that a couple of young men, raised in that country, were offended when they saw a naive young American woman in a bikini on the beach and threw some stones at her.

Does not compute.

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How does this compute for you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoBgUB8e4vg

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Yet you still don't believe that young Pakistani men would find a bikini clad woman offensive?  Do you think they liked it? 

Still doesn't compute.

[cherry*135]

"The left will always support the insupportable regardless of what it is. Their causes are always questionable, but supporting the wearing of the burqa pretty much tops the list.

The Left always oppose whatever the prevailing establishment is. The unthinking opposition, like a rebel seeking a cause, any cause, that gives meaning to their otherwise pointless existence. Oppose for oppose sake without any real conviction or understanding of what they are opposing.

The burqa is a garment of oppression. "

I don't agree. Nothing to do with political persuasions for most people. You have to factor in bigots in topics like this and hypocrites.

Julie Bishop:

"Foreign Minister Julie Bishop said while the garment did not concern her, it was essential for security reasons, that people be identified.

"I'm not confronted by clothing," she said.

"Australia is a very open and free tolerant society and we don't discriminate on the base of religious or cultural clothing - people are free to wear what they like."

Malcolm Turnbull

"The Communications Minister said he’d only seen one woman wearing the full face-covering in the public gallery during his 10 years in Parliament.
“We don’t want to have debates like this being turned into a coded attack on the Muslim community,” he added on Channel Nine’s Today Show.
“What Australians wear is a matter for them and I don’t express a view about other people’s choice of clothing.”

Peta Credlin

Ms Credlin said during the conversation [ about a burqa ban in Parliament for security reasons] that she supported people's right to wear the burqa in public.

Tony Abbott

Mr Abbott said he found the burka "a fairly confronting form of attire".

"Frankly, I wish it was not worn. But we are a free country, we are a free society and it is not the business of Government to tell people what they should and shouldn't wear," he said.

[cherry*135]

George Brandis

One of those who did not support the burqa ban was Attorney-General George Brandis. A man who is presiding over the destruction of basic freedoms and liberties via the mechanism of new anti-terror laws, nonetheless has been thought to be more liberal than conservative on social issues.

He found his voice on the burqa ban when he rightly pointed out, during an appearance at the National Press Club this week that he has "no concerns with Muslims wearing the burqa and I don't have a preference either because frankly it's none of (my) business".

And the man Senator Brandis appointed to the Human Rights Commission, Tim Wilson, also chided those who supported the idea of "banning the burqa". Mr Wilson likes to describe himself as a classical liberal.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-03/barns-classic-liberals-find-their-voice-after-burqa-ban/578781...

[lakeedge]

This argument has moved far beyond just the banning of burqa's and onto the rights of women to be treated equally and not as less than human.

Supporting the wearing of the burqa is tantamount to saying some women in some countries are less worthy and should stay in the background, cover themselves from head to foot and are dehumanized to the extent that they can be killed with no compunction.

This is what wearing this garb represents and it should be condemned  by all women who have an ounce of humanity in them.

Defending this attire is unacceptable in a western society, or any society for that matter,  because of all it stands for.

[lakeedge]

What we are seeing here is a classic pandering to a small minority and to the chattering classes of the left. I don't believe any western modern man could possibly support this attire.

[lakeedge]

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@polksaladallie wrote:

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@micasheen wrote:

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@polksaladallie wrote:

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@micasheen wrote:

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@polksaladallie wrote:

Pakistan

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Pakistan is a radical fully islamic country where women are routinely killed. Please enlighten us to whare this "bikini clad" woman was? what beach? I do not believe you, no sane person could.

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You paint this picture of a country which seemingly hates its women, yet you refuse to believe that a couple of young men, raised in that country, were offended when they saw a naive young American woman in a bikini on the beach and threw some stones at her.

Does not compute.

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How does this compute for you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoBgUB8e4vg

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Yet you still don't believe that young Pakistani men would find a bikini clad woman offensive?  Do you think they liked it? 

Still doesn't compute.

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did you watch the video?? are you still clinging onto this fantastical anecdotal fairy tale?  laughable move on.

[cherry*135]

"What we are seeing here is a classic pandering to a small minority and to the chattering classes of the left. I don't believe any western modern man could possibly support this attire."

Word it how you like, it is still your opinion, not fact.

The topic is still based on should the burqa/niqab be banned in public in Australia. Most posters are giving their personal opinions on why they think yes or no, not shifting blame to one political party or the other

There are people that have no interest in politics at all, aligned to neither major party... They still have their own views on topics though.

[cherry*135]

"I don't believe any western modern man could possibly support this attire."

Have you run a poll to come to that conclusion or is it your own personal opinion not based on any facts? It is a pretty wild assertion on your behalf.
Read my 2 posts above - comments from LNP members..males included.

I guess you support Jacquie Lambie and Pauline Hanson.

[polksaladallie]

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@micasheen wrote:

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@polksaladallie wrote:

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@micasheen wrote:

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@polksaladallie wrote:

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@micasheen wrote:

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@polksaladallie wrote:

Pakistan

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Pakistan is a radical fully islamic country where women are routinely killed. Please enlighten us to whare this "bikini clad" woman was? what beach? I do not believe you, no sane person could.

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You paint this picture of a country which seemingly hates its women, yet you refuse to believe that a couple of young men, raised in that country, were offended when they saw a naive young American woman in a bikini on the beach and threw some stones at her.

Does not compute.

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How does this compute for you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoBgUB8e4vg

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Yet you still don't believe that young Pakistani men would find a bikini clad woman offensive?  Do you think they liked it? 

Still doesn't compute.

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did you watch the video?? are you still clinging onto this fantastical anecdotal fairy tale?  laughable move on.

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Pakistani men throw acid on women, and are violent to women for no apparent reason, they oppress women and insist that they cover their bodies, but they see nothing wrong with a bikini clad woman on a beach.  Really?

Is there a full moon?

[cherry*135]

Trying to disrupt the thread my guess.

That young women in the youtube clip isn't a burqa/niqab wearer. What has that got to do with... Should the burqa be banned in Australia.?