22-09-2014 08:59 AM - edited 22-09-2014 09:00 AM
on 08-10-2014 08:11 PM
on 08-10-2014 08:50 PM
@***super_nova*** wrote:
@micasheen wrote:The sheer obtuseness of the supporters makes me wonder what age they are, what is the mindset this defence springs from? of a garment that is totally designed to isolate and subjugate women.
That is incredibly arrogant and patronizing of the women in Australia who choose to wear burqa or niqab.
I would question why they choose to wear a burqa. Maybe it gives them a sense of virtue. Or comfort.
Your bum wouldn't look big in it. No worries about bad hair day. No waistband cutting into you after a big meal.
Seriously, the burqa is a garment of concealment the muslim faith imposes on women to ensure men don't succumb to lustful urges engendered by a glance of the eyes, the flash of an ankle or wrist, the toss of the hair.
The Muslim menfolk must not have a lot discipline over themselves is all I can say.
I can't even imagine what it would like to wear it on a hot summer's day, while you're doing the week's shopping or picking your kids up from school.
It's a garment symbolising male dominance over women.
I can't imagine anyone upholding women's rights even remotely condoning such a garment.
on 08-10-2014 08:54 PM
@am*3 wrote:Familiar background? What is a sign about Australia doing in Mississippi? ^^ (see above image)
I think it is apt that the butchered sign with racist overtones would be from Mississippi - home of the Ku Klux Kan...
on 08-10-2014 08:59 PM
@icyfroth wrote:
@***super_nova*** wrote:
@micasheen wrote:The sheer obtuseness of the supporters makes me wonder what age they are, what is the mindset this defence springs from? of a garment that is totally designed to isolate and subjugate women.
That is incredibly arrogant and patronizing of the women in Australia who choose to wear burqa or niqab.
I would question why they choose to wear a burqa. Maybe it gives them a sense of virtue. Or comfort.
Your bum wouldn't look big in it. No worries about bad hair day. No waistband cutting into you after a big meal.
Seriously, the burqa is a garment of concealment the muslim faith imposes on women to ensure men don't succumb to lustful urges engendered by a glance of the eyes, the flash of an ankle or wrist, the toss of the hair.
The Muslim menfolk must not have a lot discipline over themselves is all I can say.
I can't even imagine what it would like to wear it on a hot summer's day, while you're doing the week's shopping or picking your kids up from school.
It's a garment symbolising male dominance over women.
I can't imagine anyone upholding women's rights even remotely condoning such a garment.
You realise that they are made of cotton or silk? And that the women wear whatever they want underneath (in summer shorts and singlets)? So heat is really not an issue.
Either way, why do we need to question their wearing it at all. And again I will say, it is only our perception that wearing coverings is due to male dominance in Australia. Most women I know would chew their men folk up and spit them out in seconds. And, just as it is with Western dress, it is usually WOMEN who pass judgement on other womens mode of clothing.
on 08-10-2014 09:01 PM
@village_person wrote:
@tezza2844 wrote:Talk about banning burqas and niqabs , what about hoodies, available anywhere, anytime and cheap.
Preferred dressed for most everyday smash and grab robbers, service stations robbers, vandals, muggers, rapists and I suppose you could throw in a few murderers
But I’ve yet to hear any one of the above mentioned wearing a burqa or a niqab
So are we to assume that hoodies are a religious/cultural thing? Are they worn by anabaptists or some other cult?
No. But are we to assume that only religious "disguises" are ever confronting or pose a security threat?
on 08-10-2014 09:04 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
@village_person wrote:
@tezza2844 wrote:Talk about banning burqas and niqabs , what about hoodies, available anywhere, anytime and cheap.
Preferred dressed for most everyday smash and grab robbers, service stations robbers, vandals, muggers, rapists and I suppose you could throw in a few murderers
But I’ve yet to hear any one of the above mentioned wearing a burqa or a niqab
So are we to assume that hoodies are a religious/cultural thing? Are they worn by anabaptists or some other cult?
No. But are we to assume that only religious "disguises" are ever confronting or pose a security threat?
Some people find clowns confronting and there are many that have clown phobias. And there are a lot of clown related crimes if you google.
Let's ban clowns.
on 08-10-2014 09:10 PM
@am*3 wrote:
@karliandjacko wrote:I've seen a police officer wearing a chador what is to stop her from wearing the full burka when patrolling the streets and pulling people over?
Has anyone else ever seen an Australian police officer dressed in such a way?
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on 08-10-2014 09:16 PM
@i-need-a-martini wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:
@***super_nova*** wrote:
@micasheen wrote:The sheer obtuseness of the supporters makes me wonder what age they are, what is the mindset this defence springs from? of a garment that is totally designed to isolate and subjugate women.
That is incredibly arrogant and patronizing of the women in Australia who choose to wear burqa or niqab.
I would question why they choose to wear a burqa. Maybe it gives them a sense of virtue. Or comfort.
Your bum wouldn't look big in it. No worries about bad hair day. No waistband cutting into you after a big meal.
Seriously, the burqa is a garment of concealment the muslim faith imposes on women to ensure men don't succumb to lustful urges engendered by a glance of the eyes, the flash of an ankle or wrist, the toss of the hair.
The Muslim menfolk must not have a lot discipline over themselves is all I can say.
I can't even imagine what it would like to wear it on a hot summer's day, while you're doing the week's shopping or picking your kids up from school.
It's a garment symbolising male dominance over women.
I can't imagine anyone upholding women's rights even remotely condoning such a garment.
You realise that they are made of cotton or silk? And that the women wear whatever they want underneath (in summer shorts and singlets)? So heat is really not an issue.
Either way, why do we need to question their wearing it at all. And again I will say, it is only our perception that wearing coverings is due to male dominance in Australia. Most women I know would chew their men folk up and spit them out in seconds. And, just as it is with Western dress, it is usually WOMEN who pass judgement on other womens mode of clothing.
Yeah that's a good one Martini. In summer they wear shorts and a singlet underneath it. But to be in keeping with the tenets of Islam, yep throw a burqa over it. No one will know what lies beneath.
In other words, it's a garment of concealment. Required to be worn by women of the Muslim faith.
on 08-10-2014 09:20 PM
Red necks are still red necks does not matter what country.
on 08-10-2014 09:21 PM
@karliandjacko wrote:I've seen a police officer wearing a chador what is to stop her from wearing the full burka when patrolling the streets and pulling people over?
Has anyone else ever seen an Australian police officer dressed in such a way?
Are you saying that muslim police officers in chadors don't exist? I saw one recently.