22-09-2014 08:59 AM - edited 22-09-2014 09:00 AM
on 09-10-2014 11:22 AM
@karliandjacko wrote:
@micasheen wrote:It's deflection and trying to equate the downtrodden who have to wear the burqa to others who they perceive to be the same as the women who are forced to wear this attire, it's insulting and offensive to women.
It's like the shameful equation that the stone age ideology of Isil is the same as Christianity. It's been said before but worth repeating that the mindless and usually vicious stupidity of the left is on avid display.
I wonder how the many women on here championing the burqa would feel if their faces were pixellated out of society, their persona reduced to persona non grata, their faces anathema and their bodies shrouded from head to toe, not a sliver of their body visible.
Having to face the wall in public to lift the veil and eat a spoonful at a time whilst their husbands and sons wear shorts and interact in public.
The "cultural cut" men are insisting females have in Australia, men taking their children overseas to be mutilated whilst the men's genitalia is left intact, the child brides as young as 9 being taken overseas and married off to adult men, all these practices are to subjugate, dehumanize and erase women from normal life.
It's not just the burqa or other garments women are forced to wear but all the other practices that are associated with it and all at the hands of men. The burqa can't be taken singularly, it can't be removed from the other practices associated with the doctrines women have to obey whilst men are free.
Most on here refuse to acknowledge any of the above, most on here are only defending women in Australia to wear it if they choose, most on here turn their eyes away from all it entails for millions of women.
Nobody is championing the burqa.
The burqa has nothing to do with FGM, nothing at all.
This whole debate has nothing to do with the rights of women, only with the demonisation of muslims, dividing the nation and gaining support for Abbott and co by creating fear within society.
you forgot to put IMO
on 09-10-2014 12:15 PM
@karliandjacko wrote:
@micasheen wrote:It's deflection and trying to equate the downtrodden who have to wear the burqa to others who they perceive to be the same as the women who are forced to wear this attire, it's insulting and offensive to women.
It's like the shameful equation that the stone age ideology of Isil is the same as Christianity. It's been said before but worth repeating that the mindless and usually vicious stupidity of the left is on avid display.
I wonder how the many women on here championing the burqa would feel if their faces were pixellated out of society, their persona reduced to persona non grata, their faces anathema and their bodies shrouded from head to toe, not a sliver of their body visible.
Having to face the wall in public to lift the veil and eat a spoonful at a time whilst their husbands and sons wear shorts and interact in public.
The "cultural cut" men are insisting females have in Australia, men taking their children overseas to be mutilated whilst the men's genitalia is left intact, the child brides as young as 9 being taken overseas and married off to adult men, all these practices are to subjugate, dehumanize and erase women from normal life.
It's not just the burqa or other garments women are forced to wear but all the other practices that are associated with it and all at the hands of men. The burqa can't be taken singularly, it can't be removed from the other practices associated with the doctrines women have to obey whilst men are free.
Most on here refuse to acknowledge any of the above, most on here are only defending women in Australia to wear it if they choose, most on here turn their eyes away from all it entails for millions of women.
Nobody is championing the burqa.
The burqa has nothing to do with FGM, nothing at all.
This whole debate has nothing to do with the rights of women, only with the demonisation of muslims, dividing the nation and gaining support for Abbott and co by creating fear within society.
I cannot believe that this is all you got of the wider discussion on this debate.
A cheap political shot, ignoring all the other wider rmifications, is this all all we can expect from the left on here.
on 09-10-2014 12:18 PM
@iapetus_rocks wrote:Just an aside, but no men wear the hijab or the niqab or the buqa or the chador.
Can you explain why that is so?
If you are a male do you wear dresses?
on 09-10-2014 12:18 PM
@icyfroth wrote:
@karliandjacko wrote:
@micasheen wrote:It's deflection and trying to equate the downtrodden who have to wear the burqa to others who they perceive to be the same as the women who are forced to wear this attire, it's insulting and offensive to women.
It's like the shameful equation that the stone age ideology of Isil is the same as Christianity. It's been said before but worth repeating that the mindless and usually vicious stupidity of the left is on avid display.
I wonder how the many women on here championing the burqa would feel if their faces were pixellated out of society, their persona reduced to persona non grata, their faces anathema and their bodies shrouded from head to toe, not a sliver of their body visible.
Having to face the wall in public to lift the veil and eat a spoonful at a time whilst their husbands and sons wear shorts and interact in public.
The "cultural cut" men are insisting females have in Australia, men taking their children overseas to be mutilated whilst the men's genitalia is left intact, the child brides as young as 9 being taken overseas and married off to adult men, all these practices are to subjugate, dehumanize and erase women from normal life.
It's not just the burqa or other garments women are forced to wear but all the other practices that are associated with it and all at the hands of men. The burqa can't be taken singularly, it can't be removed from the other practices associated with the doctrines women have to obey whilst men are free.
Most on here refuse to acknowledge any of the above, most on here are only defending women in Australia to wear it if they choose, most on here turn their eyes away from all it entails for millions of women.
Nobody is championing the burqa.
The burqa has nothing to do with FGM, nothing at all.
This whole debate has nothing to do with the rights of women, only with the demonisation of muslims, dividing the nation and gaining support for Abbott and co by creating fear within society.
you forgot to put IMO
Agree.
The red sentence above is something I would never want to be associated with in my lifetime but the left have no shame, it staggers the mind.
That is my opinion and I'm proud of it.
on 09-10-2014 12:20 PM
karlia wrote:
This whole debate has nothing to do with the rights of women, only with the demonisation of muslims, dividing the nation and gaining support for Abbott and co by creating fear within society.
Got it in one.
09-10-2014 12:26 PM - edited 09-10-2014 12:27 PM
@micasheen wrote:
@karliandjacko wrote:
@micasheen wrote:It's deflection and trying to equate the downtrodden who have to wear the burqa to others who they perceive to be the same as the women who are forced to wear this attire, it's insulting and offensive to women.
It's like the shameful equation that the stone age ideology of Isil is the same as Christianity. It's been said before but worth repeating that the mindless and usually vicious stupidity of the left is on avid display.
I wonder how the many women on here championing the burqa would feel if their faces were pixellated out of society, their persona reduced to persona non grata, their faces anathema and their bodies shrouded from head to toe, not a sliver of their body visible.
Having to face the wall in public to lift the veil and eat a spoonful at a time whilst their husbands and sons wear shorts and interact in public.
The "cultural cut" men are insisting females have in Australia, men taking their children overseas to be mutilated whilst the men's genitalia is left intact, the child brides as young as 9 being taken overseas and married off to adult men, all these practices are to subjugate, dehumanize and erase women from normal life.
It's not just the burqa or other garments women are forced to wear but all the other practices that are associated with it and all at the hands of men. The burqa can't be taken singularly, it can't be removed from the other practices associated with the doctrines women have to obey whilst men are free.
Most on here refuse to acknowledge any of the above, most on here are only defending women in Australia to wear it if they choose, most on here turn their eyes away from all it entails for millions of women.
Nobody is championing the burqa.
The burqa has nothing to do with FGM, nothing at all.
This whole debate has nothing to do with the rights of women, only with the demonisation of muslims, dividing the nation and gaining support for Abbott and co by creating fear within society.
I cannot believe that this is all you got of the wider discussion on this debate.
A cheap political shot, ignoring all the other wider rmifications, is this all all we can expect from the left on here.
There are no wider ramifications. This whole debate is a beat up to create division and conflict within the community. There is no rational reason for this argument given that very few women in Australia ever wear a burqa.
on 09-10-2014 04:33 PM
@polksaladallie wrote:I thought a good sleep might have cleared your mind, but no.
Again, what does it matter who is wearing what?
Do try and keep up Peggy.
on 09-10-2014 04:42 PM
@debra9275 wrote:
Reasons against
Maybe those so against the wearing of Burqas should actually find someone who does wear one to ask them why they do it?
Are you crazy or just trying to set up a dangerous situation? If a male were to walk up to a female muslim and pose a question or two he might just catch a glimpse of hair on that female muslim. It could be an eyebrow or perhaps some nasal hair. It doesn't matter because we know what happens next. The male starts to experience a loss of self-control and he starts to cast oeillades in her direction. This has the potential to create a very dangerous situation unless a cold shower or bucket of ice water is on hand.
on 09-10-2014 04:45 PM
on 09-10-2014 08:05 PM
What makes you think they do that?