22-09-2014 08:59 AM - edited 22-09-2014 09:00 AM
on 09-10-2014 12:45 AM
There is choice. Most women do not wear niqab or burqa.
09-10-2014 12:57 AM - edited 09-10-2014 01:01 AM
But please acknowledge that for some women, even in Australia, there is no choice if they are subject to the pressures exherted by their husbands, brothers or other relatives.
What choice does a woman have when faced with threats of either violence or social or religious sanctions? The pressures are huge.
I'm not talking about the hijab-wearing 20-somethings who walk about wearing tight clothing, make-up and an hijab.
You do appreciate the differenc, I suppose?
Some might say they "choose" it . . . but it's a choice informed by some rather unpleasant sanctions if refusal is considered, in many cases.
on 09-10-2014 01:00 AM
Just an aside, but no men wear the hijab or the niqab or the buqa or the chador.
Can you explain why that is so?
on 09-10-2014 08:39 AM
@lionrose.7 wrote:Red necks are still red necks does not matter what country.
Thanks for your deep and meaningful thought.
on 09-10-2014 08:43 AM
@village_person wrote:
@polksaladallie wrote:
@village_person wrote:
@polksaladallie wrote:What does it matter whether they are men or women?
Welcome to 2014. You have been keeping up with the discussion have you?
Don't have an answer?
We'll slow the pace down a bit so you can catch up. Take your time and when you're ready to kick off the training wheels we'll pick up the pace a little.
Still no answer?
on 09-10-2014 08:46 AM
@tezza2844 wrote:
village_ person answered ? "So are we to assume that hoodies are a religious/cultural thing? Are they worn by anabaptists or some other cult" I really can't understand why you would even consider " everyday smash and grab robbers, service stations robbers, vandals, muggers, rapists and I suppose you could throw in a few murderers" as part of a religious/cultural thing. Hoods or cowls are worn by other cult/sects/religious persons e.g monks, nuns, but when worn by the fore mentioned I would find them confronting just as some people say they would be confronted by the burqa and niqab.
The hoodies are worn by the criminal milieu because a) a woman has told the men to wear it, and b) they have managed to hide all their bad habits behind a religion. That would make the wearing of a hoodie acceptable wouldn't it?
on 09-10-2014 08:47 AM
@polksaladallie wrote:
@village_person wrote:
@polksaladallie wrote:
@village_person wrote:
@polksaladallie wrote:What does it matter whether they are men or women?
Welcome to 2014. You have been keeping up with the discussion have you?
Don't have an answer?
We'll slow the pace down a bit so you can catch up. Take your time and when you're ready to kick off the training wheels we'll pick up the pace a little.
Still no answer?
Still scratching around trying to find out what we're all talking about? Did you know that man has landed on the moon and WWII is over? Try and keep up.
on 09-10-2014 08:52 AM
@am*3 wrote:Off course I do. I would think anyone that knows what a "redneck" is wouldn't need to ask that question.
If you know what redneck means why did you reply with 'muslim men'?
You don't think there's a percentage of muslim men that are "rednecks" just as there is in other societies?
LR said burqas attract rednecks. What does she mean? That rednecks are attracted to burqas more than non-"rednecks"?
Or does she really mean something else.?
on 09-10-2014 08:54 AM
I thought a good sleep might have cleared your mind, but no.
Again, what does it matter who is wearing what?
on 09-10-2014 09:16 AM
It's deflection and trying to equate the downtrodden who have to wear the burqa to others who they perceive to be the same as the women who are forced to wear this attire, it's insulting and offensive to women.
It's like the shameful equation that the stone age ideology of Isil is the same as Christianity. It's been said before but worth repeating that the mindless and usually vicious stupidity of the left is on avid display.
I wonder how the many women on here championing the burqa would feel if their faces were pixellated out of society, their persona reduced to persona non grata, their faces anathema and their bodies shrouded from head to toe, not a sliver of their body visible.
Having to face the wall in public to lift the veil and eat a spoonful at a time whilst their husbands and sons wear shorts and interact in public.
The "cultural cut" men are insisting females have in Australia, men taking their children overseas to be mutilated whilst the men's genitalia is left intact, the child brides as young as 9 being taken overseas and married off to adult men, all these practices are to subjugate, dehumanize and erase women from normal life.
It's not just the burqa or other garments women are forced to wear but all the other practices that are associated with it and all at the hands of men. The burqa can't be taken singularly, it can't be removed from the other practices associated with the doctrines women have to obey whilst men are free.
Most on here refuse to acknowledge any of the above, most on here are only defending women in Australia to wear it if they choose, most on here turn their eyes away from all it entails for millions of women.