Should the Burqa be banned in Australia

[nero_bolt]

Should the Burqa and Niqab be banned in Australia?

[lloydslights]

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

another example for bushies.girl:

UAE laws you must know to stay out of trouble

Another way the UAE decency law may affect the unsuspecting resident is by the guidelines it puts on clothing. Summer heat may tempt you to pull out the most exotic outfit you have to parade and mingle in the place where it’s all about the looks. Wrong again.

http://www.emirates247.com/news/emirates/uae-laws-you-must-know-to-stay-out-of-trouble-2012-02-28-1....

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I wish those "laws" came back in, in Australia.  

And I love the slogan "Reflect your Respect".

DEB

[softail-joanie]

if someone wants  to wear it at home or down the street then no, it shouldn't be banned......

However, if you walk into a bank, petrol station, shop..... then remove it.... the same rules apply to everyone. . Business owners have the right to select dress codes on their premises.  Wearing a burqa, does not mean you can hide your face from . security cameras..... and does not mean you don't steal . 

You say that bussiness owners have the right to choose if or not to allow the wearing of burkas in their place of bussiness, (select dress codes) and yet, you take that right away from them by saying that we can't wear them in a bank, petro station or shop even if the owners or managers say its OK because a security camera linked to a fusion center must keep track of everyone..

I get arrested for nothing more than riding my bicycle, I often tuck a napkin up under my sunglasses to keep the sun off of my face, i burn easally, face and nose gets very red.. Now i have to worry about breaking the law by shading my face from the sun?

You tell people they can't do this, just because you have to monitor their identity, well, what about their privacy, they don't have a right to that? Thats why I can ride my bike, something bad if left unchecked will get worse. The only way i'll ever be able to ride a bicycle again is to get a dozon or more people doing the same right along with me. Thats messed up.

[lloydslights]

Ever heard of a wide brimmed hat and sunscreen?  

DEB

[karliandjacko]

Where are all the full burqa wearers in Australia?

How many would there be?

[softail-joanie]

Ever heard of a wide brimmed hat and sunscreen?

Yes, I wear a hat, that shades my forehead, still get burned around the nose area. I don't use sunscreen, don't react well to my skin, same reason i'll get eat up by mosquos and not use that "Off" spray some have offered.

But thats not really the point, From my standpoint, we all have certain rights. Wearing that burka thing might not be important to you or me, but what gives anyone the right to say who can wear what? Also, no police or government agancy has the right to demand we all must submit to identy confirmation.

If a store owner or the one hired to run the place says our face must be visible, fine, we comply or leave, I might choose to leave, even though I wouldn't likely have to worry about getting a noseburn indoors. If someone wearing a burka is asked to take it off or leave, I would leave after them and take my future bussiness somewhere that allowed it.I hope we all, or most would do the same.

[***super_nova***]

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@nero_wulf wrote:

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Huge differences.. to the burqa (below) 

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As far as i know NOBODY in Australia is wearing burqa, so banning it is somewhat pointless.  Some women do wear niqab. 

[***super_nova***]

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@kilroy_is_here wrote:
 if they wish to wear theburqa or ha jib around there house no problem ,

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The whole point is that  they do not want strangers looking at their body and face.  At home they remove their covering, and only put it on if a unrelated male comes into the house.  For women who have been covering their face all their lives it would be as unpleasant to walk down the street without it, as it would be most of Australian women to walk down the street topless.  Just imagine what would you say if you would have to show your breasts before you are allowed to enter bank.  After all somebody might be hiding gun in their bra ...............

Considering that here in Australia it is mainly the woman's decision what she wears, it is bit difficult to argue that it is a symbol of oppression of women.

Reminds me of a photo that has been widely circulated few years ago of a man walking down the street in Middle Eastern war torn town with group of ladies in burqa following some distance behind in single file.  It was also presented as an example of  how women are treated in Arab countries.  Except when it was revealed that the place was heavily mined, and the reason they walked that way was to protect the women.

[daydream**believer]

I KNOW for a fact that there are women in Australia that still wear a Burqa and i posted about it a few pages back.

The niqab is also worn quite a lot.

For those who are new-ish to our country, they wear either the Burqa or Niqab.

Im noticing though, that after theyve been here for a while, some start to wear the hijab

[daydream**believer]

super nova, you seem to have a lot of opinions for someone who must not live in an area where there are a lot of muslim families and woman wearing Burqas and Niqabs

[polksaladallie]

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@daydream**believer wrote:

I KNOW for a fact that there are women in Australia that still wear a Burqa and i posted about it a few pages back.

The niqab is also worn quite a lot.

For those who are new-ish to our country, they wear either the Burqa or Niqab.

Im noticing though, that after theyve been here for a while, some start to wear the hijab

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That was my point in post #33.  Cultural customs change over time.  As countries are gradually westernised, changes are made, and many are for the worse.