Should the Burqa be banned in Australia

[nero_bolt]

Should the Burqa and Niqab be banned in Australia?

[punch*drunk]

I think it was DDB that said there are some women wearing burqas at the kinder her kids go to. I do wonder in this day and age how they identify the person collecting the child. I wouldnt be able to collect my niece from kinder without showing id.

[muppet_detector]

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@punch*drunk wrote:

Thirdly, it was a poster here on eBay that said their school stopped celebrating the Christmas Concert.

We once had a kinder committee member insist that we stop doing our usual christmas concert which was a nativity play with the kids dressed as Australian native animals. She was outvoted.

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Do you work for Murdoch?

[bushies.girl]

Why would you want to live in/ move to a country and NOT assimilate? I hope those who don't wish to do this, don't want to vote or collect any government benefits either

[azureline**]

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@muppet_detector wrote:

Martini, you live in a community where there is a strong Muslim presence, I don't. I have never seen someone wearing a burqa, but have seen a fair few where the face is visible.

But I ask you, in your community, if a person wearing a niqab approached a child and stole them, or committed some other crime, how would an onlooker identify or p[rovide a description of that operson for the authorities? Are you confident that you could definitively say that the person in the niqab was an innocent Muslim going about their daily business and not someone posing as a Muslim, someone l;ike Denis Ferguson, with the intent to avoid identification in order to commit some nefarious activity,

If you saw a person dressed in Niqab collect a child from school and then that child disappeared, could you definitively say that the person who collected the child was their parent, and thus something happened to the child after they were collected separate from their parent, as opposed to it being denis ferguson collecting that child. Would you be able to recognize that that person wasn't the parent and perhaps intervene even?

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People are generally known to the child care/school staff and children know who their parents are, usually. If another person other than the parents were to collect them, then they need to show id and be on the list.

(ps: Denus Ferguson is dead)

[icyfroth]

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@azureline** wrote:

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@muppet_detector wrote:

Martini, you live in a community where there is a strong Muslim presence, I don't. I have never seen someone wearing a burqa, but have seen a fair few where the face is visible.

But I ask you, in your community, if a person wearing a niqab approached a child and stole them, or committed some other crime, how would an onlooker identify or p[rovide a description of that operson for the authorities? Are you confident that you could definitively say that the person in the niqab was an innocent Muslim going about their daily business and not someone posing as a Muslim, someone l;ike Denis Ferguson, with the intent to avoid identification in order to commit some nefarious activity,

If you saw a person dressed in Niqab collect a child from school and then that child disappeared, could you definitively say that the person who collected the child was their parent, and thus something happened to the child after they were collected separate from their parent, as opposed to it being denis ferguson collecting that child. Would you be able to recognize that that person wasn't the parent and perhaps intervene even?

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People are generally known to the child care/school staff and children know who their parents are, usually. If another person other than the parents were to collect them, then they need to show id and be on the list.

How do they know the difference from one person covered from head to toe to another? For instance if someone posing as the parent were to collect the child?

(ps: Denus Ferguson is dead)

The post read: someone LIKE Dennis Ferguson

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[muppet_detector]

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@punch*drunk wrote:

I think it was DDB that said there are some women wearing burqas at the kinder her kids go to. I do wonder in this day and age how they identify the person collecting the child. I wouldnt be able to collect my niece from kinder without showing id.

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It is hard enough during periods such as Holloween where people are dressed in costumes that hide their identity or at Christmas with all the extra Santas roaming around the place, but to have to be on such high alert every day of the year would be exhausting.

Add to that, it has to be demeaning for those dressed in their Burqas to know that others are always suspicious of who they are, or what their intentions are.

I understand it is cultural custom, but what I can't get my head around is that most people spend their whole lives trying to blend in, not draw attention to themselves, so why would someone come to a brand new country and purposely do things to draw attention to themselves?

[karliandjacko]

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@am*3 wrote:
The photo of the Muslim family in the water - the adults aren't 'swimming' they are standing in the water. Big difference when fully clothed.

I haven't read any reports in the news of any Muslim women drowning in the ocean, lake or river while wearing traditional Muslim attire.

What is an ORTHODOX Muslim?

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It looks photoshopped anyway. They look like they're walking on water not in water. There is no rippling around the ankles or wetness of the fabric.

[bushies.girl]

Walking on water? Jesus in disguise perhaps?

[azureline**]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@azureline** wrote:

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@muppet_detector wrote:

Martini, you live in a community where there is a strong Muslim presence, I don't. I have never seen someone wearing a burqa, but have seen a fair few where the face is visible.

But I ask you, in your community, if a person wearing a niqab approached a child and stole them, or committed some other crime, how would an onlooker identify or p[rovide a description of that operson for the authorities? Are you confident that you could definitively say that the person in the niqab was an innocent Muslim going about their daily business and not someone posing as a Muslim, someone l;ike Denis Ferguson, with the intent to avoid identification in order to commit some nefarious activity,

If you saw a person dressed in Niqab collect a child from school and then that child disappeared, could you definitively say that the person who collected the child was their parent, and thus something happened to the child after they were collected separate from their parent, as opposed to it being denis ferguson collecting that child. Would you be able to recognize that that person wasn't the parent and perhaps intervene even?

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People are generally known to the child care/school staff and children know who their parents are, usually. If another person other than the parents were to collect them, then they need to show id and be on the list.

How do they know the difference from one person covered from head to toe to another? For instance if someone posing as the parent were to collect the child?

(ps: Denis Ferguson is dead)

The post read: someone LIKE Dennis Ferguson

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no, it didn't.

 as opposed to it being denis ferguson collecting that child

[bushies.girl]

"someone l;ike Denis Ferguson" is what I read .....