Should the Burqa be banned in Australia

[nero_bolt]

Should the Burqa and Niqab be banned in Australia?

[azureline**]

and the others are not Islamic and probably don't have an unbiased view

[iapetus_rocks]

Oh well, people can do their own research and form their own opinions.

[cherry*135]

Research from reliable sources I hope.

[iapetus_rocks]

Like yours?

[Anonymous]

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@am*3 wrote:

I wanted to match the comment with that end photo. I didn't post all the comments because I posted the link. Anyone interested could read them themselves...the comments alongside each photo.

The series is about the hijab, so yes, her last comment refers to that. I never thought otherwise.

Photographer Boushra Almutawakel’s ongoing series about the hijab

Really, that whole photograph series posted, without any accompnaying text to explain it, isn't relevant to this discussion on burqa's anyway.

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I wanted to match the comment with that end photo.

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this is the comment referring to the end photo:

The final, empty shot is a humorous touch that, along with the doll, asks just how far veiling can go. There are, of course, some men at the extreme end of the religious spectrum who would prefer this level of invisibility – that women in this part of the world didn’t leave the house at all.

The series is about the hijab, so yes, her last comment refers to that. I never thought otherwise.

the series is about the hijab/veil.

it depicts the veil in different forms -

from moderate to the extreme  -

i would say it is very relevant to the topic -

more relevant than the nuns photos

[k0llectable5]

Can I just say before I comment, I havent read the whole thread, heck it's 30 pages long lol but I'm really liking the indepth debate thats going on in here, it's a very meaningful discussion (of the 15 or so pages that I did read) kudos to you all for your personal contributions 🙂

I only really have one thing to say.  I feel intimidated around bikini clad women at the beach or scantally clad women at clubs or when it's summer and, females that can get away with it, are all wearing mini skirts and short shorts/crop tops etc.  I had an anxiety attack on a tram in Melbourne years ago. these two "model" looking women hopped on the tram in short shorts and crop tops and everyone (male and female) on board couldn't take their eyes off these girls. They were flaunting it good and proper, and they had it to flaunt so why not ey?  But I had a low self esteem at the time and was rather self conscious and it just made me feel so uncomfortable that I had to exit the tram at the nearest stop.  

If the burqa is worn by choice I have absolutely no problem with it, I understand Boris' post fully.  If it's forced onto someone then I fully oppose it.  

Can we just let men be men and women be women.  If you want to wear heaps of makeup and get around in next to nothing fine.  Just be aware that you are exploiting yourself and I'm sure most men love it, but some men and women are going to feel a little uncomfortable/itimidated around you.  

The same with wearing Burqas in OZ.  The average Aussie doesn't wear a burqa, and some of us are going to feel a little uncomfortable or intimidated around you if you are wearing one.  

And with both scenarios I'm quite sure that neither are intending to intimidate even though inadvertently they both are to an extent. It's almost like one sits at each end of the womens liberation spectrum. If such a thing even exists lol It's a bit like your liberated if you do, your liberated if dont 

[boris1gary]

timely article

Islamic State? A better name might be unIslamic State

There's a grisly prescience about the opening line of If, Rudyard Kipling's most famous poem: "If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs ..."

Kipling, of course, wasn't thinking about beheading as a tool of terror, nor of the rampaging horror of Islamic State, but he did understand the way we could all metaphorically lose our heads in times like these.

His poem is a warning about the dangers of being swept along by the noise of the crowd. He wanted us to understand how difficult it is to stand steady against such pressure, and how doing so requires character, values and fortitude.

Let's hope we all measure up, for the time is now.

Cory Bernardi and Jacqui Lambie have announced their own jihad against Islamic dress, as if bombers in burqas were our most pressing issue. Others turn to social media. "All this violence is right there in the Koran," rant a thousand voices on Facebook, before going on to quote certain lines, as if the Christian Bible doesn't offer the odd smoting.

What's interesting is that these anti-Islamic crusaders are doing identical work to the terrorists: they seek to make Islamic State an expression of Islam. They are trying to recast the world so that a rag-tag group of violent criminals is suddenly the true representation of a religion.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/islamic-state-a-better-name-might-be-unislamic-state-20140930-10o0ok.h...

[cherry*135]

The average Aussie doesn't wear a burqa, and some of us are going to feel a little uncomfortable or intimidated around you if you are wearing one.  

Very few women at all in the whole of Australia wear a burqa.

The women I have seen wearing a burqa are with their children (and husbands sometime), walking along, like everyone else.

I really can't see how that could be intimidating or even uncomfortable. Their could be dozens or hundreds of people out that day and 1 or 2 women wearing burqa's.

[cherry*135]

I read similar to this in another article today.

When next someone conflates Islam with terrorist violence, understand that they are doing the work of Islamic State; when next someone directs hostility towards a woman in traditional dress, understand that this is a gift to those who would divide us.

Our joint project is to place the wedge where it belongs. On both sides, we must divide the normals from the nutters.

We must keep our heads when all about us are losing theirs.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/islamic-state-a-better-name-might-be-unislamic-state-20140930-10o0ok.h...

[azureline**]

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@iapetus_rocks wrote:

Oh well, people can do their own research and form their own opinions.

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Yes!

what I like to do is read a few different things and check the similarities and the differences, you can usually find a balanced view................... as well as talk to the people involved.