05-02-2015 08:32 PM - edited 05-02-2015 08:32 PM
Bali Nine: Australian poll showing support for death penalty misleading say critics
A poll finding a slim majority of Australians support the death penalty for Australian drug traffickers – seized upon by the Indonesian government to justify the killing of Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran – is crude and misleading, according to critics.
The "snap" poll by Roy Morgan Research was conducted in January by sending an SMS to the company's database of people it had previously interviewed, an uncommon method.
But what has most concerned pollsters and lawyers for Chan and Sukumaran is the question that was asked, and the ones that were not.
Morgan asked: "In your opinion if an Australian is convicted of drug trafficking in another country & sentenced to death, should the penalty be carried out?"
Those contacted were asked to reply Y for "Yes" and N for "No".
Just over half of the 2123 people respondents, 52 per cent, replied by typing "Y" on their phones.
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Things that make you go mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
on 05-02-2015 10:14 PM
on 05-02-2015 10:15 PM
@village_person wrote:
@nevynreally wrote:The bigger mmmmmmm is a government that uses a radio stations poll to justify executing anyone.
And the best way to avoid facing execution is what?
Not do the crime. Simples.
The bleeding hearts around here (or maybe they just argue for arguments sake?) would say otherwise.
on 05-02-2015 10:16 PM
I really don't think they would use the poll to justify it.
They don't need another reason to justify it and they aren't afraid of shooting first and not asking questions later
so a poll like this is IMHO insignificant.
on 05-02-2015 10:19 PM
on 05-02-2015 10:19 PM
Yep. Pretty much the same as running the country. Not owning up to your own short comings? Screams bogan.
Good gracious, Nevyn.there are quite a few epithets I could cheerfully apply to Tony Abbott, but I don't think bogan would be top of the list.
05-02-2015 10:22 PM - edited 05-02-2015 10:24 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:Yep. Pretty much the same as running the country. Not owning up to your own short comings? Screams bogan.
Good gracious, Nevyn.there are quite a few epithets I could cheerfully apply to Tony Abbott, but I don't think bogan would be top of the list.
Wrong thread honey.
But, right on cue.
on 05-02-2015 10:24 PM
@debra9275 wrote:
I would hope not, but that's what the SMH article says
Yes, well.
I look at how they deal with "terrorists" before capture, in other words soemtimes they go in with a
"let's not take prisoners, shoot to kill".
I really don't think they are going to be worried about a poll, regardless of what the SMH says.
on 05-02-2015 10:27 PM
@vicr3000 wrote:
@debra9275 wrote:
I would hope not, but that's what the SMH article says
Yes, well.
I look at how they deal with "terrorists" before capture, in other words soemtimes they go in with a
"let's not take prisoners, shoot to kill".
I really don't think they are going to be worried about a poll, regardless of what the SMH says.
They said their decision was at least partly based (and I'm being generous here) on a poll conducted by a radio station.
on 05-02-2015 10:42 PM
@nevynreally wrote:
@vicr3000 wrote:
@debra9275 wrote:
I would hope not, but that's what the SMH article says
Yes, well.
I look at how they deal with "terrorists" before capture, in other words soemtimes they go in with a
"let's not take prisoners, shoot to kill".
I really don't think they are going to be worried about a poll, regardless of what the SMH says.
They said their decision was at least partly based (and I'm being generous here) on a poll conducted by a radio station.
Nah their minds were made up weeks ago. This radio poll is just a prop.
Indon pres Joko can't back down on this without making himself look like a little black boy bowing down to the great white massa Australia, and I don't blame him.
Indonesia are renowned for their strict laws on drug-smuggling and people still try to push their luck.
I'm sad for Myuran and Andrew, but they lucked out.
on 05-02-2015 11:00 PM
@icyfroth wrote:
@nevynreally wrote:
@vicr3000 wrote:
@debra9275 wrote:
I would hope not, but that's what the SMH article says
Yes, well.
I look at how they deal with "terrorists" before capture, in other words soemtimes they go in with a
"let's not take prisoners, shoot to kill".
I really don't think they are going to be worried about a poll, regardless of what the SMH says.
They said their decision was at least partly based (and I'm being generous here) on a poll conducted by a radio station.
Nah their minds were made up weeks ago. This radio poll is just a prop.
Indon pres Joko can't back down on this without making himself look like a little black boy bowing down to the great white massa Australia, and I don't blame him.
Indonesia are renowned for their strict laws on drug-smuggling and people still try to push their luck.
I'm sad for Myuran and Andrew, but they lucked out.
Yes, I know. Using the poll to justify the lack of a pardon? I hope others get the message, if that's the only lesson these two can give, make it worth something.