Small majority favor death penalty

[village_person]

Bali Nine: Australian poll showing support for death penalty misleading say critics

A poll finding a slim majority of Australians support the death penalty for Australian drug traffickers – seized upon by the Indonesian government to justify the killing of Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran – is crude and misleading, according to critics.

The "snap" poll by Roy Morgan Research was conducted in January by sending an SMS to the company's database of people it had previously interviewed, an uncommon method.

But what has most concerned pollsters and lawyers for Chan and Sukumaran is the question that was asked, and the ones that were not.

Morgan asked: "In your opinion if an Australian is convicted of drug trafficking in another country & sentenced to death, should the penalty be carried out?"

Those contacted were asked to reply Y for "Yes" and N for "No".

Just over half of the 2123 people respondents, 52 per cent, replied by typing "Y" on their phones.

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http://www.smh.com.au/national/bali-nine-australian-poll-showing-support-for-death-penalty-misleadin...

Things that make you go mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

[iapetus_rocks]

Things are as they are, and sometimes things are wrong and barbaric. We can avoid a lot of the barbarity happening to us if we are careful. The two who stand convicted of drug smuggling could have avoided the barbarity they are about to face.

I see them as Darwin Award winners.

I don't like or support a death penalty, but they knew the risks and they took the gamble and they lost.

I don't like heroin, it's not a fun drug and it has the potential to make slaves of people and to make them very sick, sometimes unto death.

The Jordanian pilot rained down fiery death and destruction on enemies of his country and those enemies, having captured him, destroyed him in a like manner.

In a cruel and babaric world, those who act to perpetrate cruelty and barbarism on others can have little to justifiably whinge about when the karmic boomerang returns and hits them on the back of their heads.

[myoclon1cjerk]

Pity the Indonesians didn't apply the death penalty for government /corporate corruption,gross environmental destruction,bribe taking etc.They'd soon run out of bullets.

[vicr3000]

"In a cruel and babaric world, those who act to perpetrate cruelty and barbarism on others can have little to justifiably whinge about when the karmic boomerang returns and hits them on the back of their heads."

That is a very good saying.

[softail-joanie]

Country Slammer (Mad Tv)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la5JH5fpqU4

[lurker172602]

I read this article this morning.  I think it's interesting.

Three excuses for the Bali nine death penalty - and why they're all sickeningly wrong

[vicr3000]

That writer makes far too many assumptions.

"If a law is unjust, why would we agree with its enforcement, particularly when it involves the death penalty?"

Who says it is unjust ?

"Well, I didn't realise we were reverting back to the days of eye-for-an-eye punishments"

We aren't, they are.

"and just the sickening waste of it all. "

It's not a waste, some scum have been removed from earth, society and the gene pool,

that has to be good long term.

"We should never support the death penalty, which is not a deterrent and only serves to allow governments to enforce a most brutal, unjust, irrational "justice" - generally against those who have the least resources and ability to defend themselves. "

In her eyes, in others it is very just.

She is a classic huggy fluffy, do gooder.

[the_great_she_elephant]

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Yep. Pretty much the same as running the country. Not owning up to your own short comings? Screams bogan.

Good gracious, Nevyn.there are quite a few epithets I could cheerfully apply to Tony Abbott, but I don't think bogan would be top of the list.

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What has the prime minister got to do with this topic?

Tony Abbott obsession anyone?

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Ask Nevyn. She was the one who posted, "Yep. Pretty much the same as running the country. Not owning up to your own short comings? Screams bogan.

Last time I looked Tony Abbott was our PM and presumably running the country. 

[j*oono]

Great article Lurker and oh so right.

Especially this paragraph

When women are sentenced to be stoned to death overseas you don't hear people saying "well, she knew that was the law when she had sex, and that country has a right to enforce its laws".

No, we say it's an immoral act - and we applaud people who fight against it. We are shocked by how much the punishment exceeds the "crime", and we are sickened by the brutality of a state that thinks it has the right to take a life, to torture. The vast public outpouring for Australian journalist Peter Greste, convicted for the laughable crime of "spreading false news", shows just how willing we are to reject another country's unjust laws.