Smokers and smoking, destroying the world

[joa_ell]

soulart2 -

Can I suggest that you start your own thread about your struggles with passive smoking ? 

Heather Crowe : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRXWjBxCb8

Hese's the topic youv'e been asking for. The number one cause of un natural death in the world is from a legal drug called tobacco. this is pushed to everyone from adults to children by a joint effort between the big tobacco companies and governments of the world. Why?, simple, theres money in it. Money made from the sold product, from taxes paid, and in money saved in retirement benifits governments no longer have to pay because the adict died long before their time. This also fits in with their plans of depopulation. You might have heard of softkill, well, tobacco is right up there at the top of the long list, even more harmfull than aspertaine.

What makes smoking such a major threat is you do not have to be a smoker for this to affect you, ruin your health, or posibilly cause death. In fact, in the last hundred years, more have died from this than all the world's wars, criminal homicides, and accidents combined.

If you know someone who has been affected by this demon in plain sight, post a reply and let us know. Through discussion and reaching out to communites, Lets encourage those we know who currently smoke to give it up. The future of humanity depends on what we do in the here and now. Thanks

[icyfroth]

I think there are plenty of other groups and organistions destroying the world besides smokers.

[underbat]

Hello everyone - please remember to keep things civil, debate is welcome, but try not to descend into interpersonal disputes.

[jessicadazzler97]

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@chuk_77 wrote:

the OP cant see past their own feelings and look at other peoples. This thread shows it. They started up in a support thread for someone trying to stop smoking. How is that showing encouragement. How does someone saying that smokers are destroying the world show encouragement? 

Maybe this person should actually read what is said when others say just how hard it is to stop and how depressed a person can feel when they try and stop. This thread is not helping anyone who is trying to stop smoking

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 Maybe it's just me but that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It's probably just me... 😛

  Perhaps encouragement could have been shown in a more - shall we say, sensitive? - manner, but sometimes it takes a little shock for people to sit up and notice. I'm not saying it's a good method exactly, I'm just saying that sometimes, being kind and gentle are all very well but quite frankly if that approach worked then there would be no smokers. It must be very hard for a smoker to give it up, as it is for everyone giving up some form of addiction. But everyone with an addiction must one day decide whether to stop or whether to continue, even if it might lead to their destruction.

[jessicadazzler97]

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@*pepe wrote:

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@underbat wrote:

Hello everyone - please remember to keep things civil, debate is welcome, but try not to descend into interpersonal disputes.

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oops too llate - jessica has already done that...

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 Oh Pepe, your words are like a knife to my heart... 😛

[this-one-time-at-bandcamp]

Last month, according to the OP, it was the police who were destroying the world..........next month it will be Ronald McDonald, Wendy, and the Burger King responsible.........

[digupatin]

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs310/en/

[this-one-time-at-bandcamp]

The problem with your chart, is that the anti-smokers tend to blame smoking for most heart attacks, strokes, etc........

To tell the truth, if a person stops in a crosswalk to light up, and gets hit by a bus........they'll call it a smoking death.  If your great grandfather, who smoked like a chimney, passes in his 102nd year, they'll attribute his death to smoking.........

If an individual with AIDS had a propensity for post-sex cigarettes..........you guessed it.......a smoking-related death.

[icyfroth]

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@this-one-time-at-bandcamp wrote:

The problem with your chart, is that the anti-smokers tend to blame smoking for most heart attacks, strokes, etc........

To tell the truth, if a person stops in a crosswalk to light up, and gets hit by a bus........they'll call it a smoking death.  If your great grandfather, who smoked like a chimney, passes in his 102nd year, they'll attribute his death to smoking.........

If an individual with AIDS had a propensity for post-sex cigarettes..........you guessed it.......a smoking-related death.

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I can only agree with grandad dying of smoking at 102 lol.

[chuk_77]

my MIL dies of lung cancer as a secondary cancer. Never smoked

my mum somkes like there is no tomorrow and is dying of cardiomyopathy due to a virus. Yes she has copd and emphysema directly related to smoking but the cardiomyopathy isnt. Go figure

[jessicadazzler97]

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@this-one-time-at-bandcamp wrote:

Last month, according to the OP, it was the police who were destroying the world..........next month it will be Ronald McDonald, Wendy, and the Burger King responsible.........

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 Oh hahaha 😉