So now We are One.

[not_for_sale2025]

So now We are "One". What does that mean?

Does it mean we now recognise we are a multicultural society and do not support racism? Does it mean will will no longer discriminate between the ethnic races? Will we advocate for financial equality for all Australians where people do not get extra benefits because of their race? Will all Australians take the knee when white, black or ethnic Australians suffer a wrongful death because all lives matter? Will the historical resentment and hate heal?

Somehow I don't think so.

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@4channel wrote:

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Anthony can be a hard man to please and sometimes he over reacts. However his thoughts and opinions are based on fact!

We need to keep in mind that when this land was invaded by England and settled by mainly Anglo Saxons, there was never any consideration for the land's original inhabitants. There was never intended to be a place for them in "this new country" Indigenous Australians were regarded as fauna and they were sometimes cleared away along with the vegetation.

Before any anthem can be considered there needs to be a re-discovery of actual history. There also needs to be an awakening. People should know about the conquorer and who and what they really were. An Anthem that encompasses all should be the right one. It also  needs to acknowledge the original inhabitants properly.

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Anthony Mundine hates white Australia. I have no idea what thoughts swirl around in his head, but I doubt his hatred is solely based on facts. Extreme hatred seldom is.

The British atrocities are more well known than they used to be. But at the time their imperial mission was to invade and conquer as many countries as they could to build upon their Empire. Remember it was only a few years before the Australian settlement that America fought and conquered them to gain their independence.

Australia ceased to to be a Dominion of the British Empire when it became an independent nation in 1901. Since then we have slowly distanced ourselves, while we still remain part of the Commonwealth.

Personally, I am not very proud of my British heritage. I think our national anthem needs to capture the Australia of today and our positive achievements and aspirations. It should be about unity, not division. But there are no lyrics that will capture a united sentiment while there are strong racial divisions. We are not "One". And I think it will take a lot more than a re-discovery and an awakening (whatever that means) to make us "One".

[domino-710]

They could begin with any Gov form - removing - ' Are you Aboriginal or Torres Straite Islander '.

If we are ' One ' - that is.

[rogespeed]

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@4channel wrote:

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@not_for_sale2025 wrote:

Will the historical resentment and hate heal?

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@lyndal1838 wrote:

Not if people listen to Anthony Mundine.

He was complaining even before most people had heard of the changes.

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Anthony can be a hard man to please and sometimes he over reacts. However his thoughts and opinions are based on fact!

We need to keep in mind that when this land was invaded by England and settled by mainly Anglo Saxons, there was never any consideration for the land's original inhabitants. There was never intended to be a place for them in "this new country" Indigenous Australians were regarded as fauna and they were sometimes cleared away along with the vegetation.

Before any anthem can be considered there needs to be a re-discovery of actual history. There also needs to be an awakening. People should know about the conquorer and who and what they really were. An Anthem that encompasses all should be the right one. It also  needs to acknowledge the original inhabitants properly.

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Is now called " urban expansion" and as then,  universially approved , with some exceptions 

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

I think any National Anthem expresses aspiration rather than reality. 

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The line now states, "Australians all let us rejoice, For we are one and free."

It seems it is supposed to be about what we are, in reality, not what we wannabe!

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Australians all ! let us cheer , for we are happy ,wealthy and wise  

[4channel]

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@not_for_sale2025 wrote:

Anthony Mundine hates white Australia. I have no idea what thoughts swirl around in his head, but I doubt his hatred is solely based on facts. Extreme hatred seldom is.

The British atrocities are more well known than they used to be. But at the time their imperial mission was to invade and conquer as many countries as they could to build upon their Empire. Remember it was only a few years before the Australian settlement that America fought and conquered them to gain their independence.

Australia ceased to to be a Dominion of the British Empire when it became an independent nation in 1901. Since then we have slowly distanced ourselves, while we still remain part of the Commonwealth.

Personally, I am not very proud of my British heritage. I think our national anthem needs to capture the Australia of today and our positive achievements and aspirations. It should be about unity, not division. But there are no lyrics that will capture a united sentiment while there are strong racial divisions. We are not "One". And I think it will take a lot more than a re-discovery and an awakening (whatever that means) to make us "One".

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Anthony Mundine can be a polarising figure but he is nowhere near as polarising or divisive as the media that deliberately catches him off guard and twists things around to incite fear. If he has a hatred for any aspect of "white Australia" then that hatred is shared by many white Australians for the continued institutional racism, police brutality and disparity which is a painful reality to many Indigenous Australians.

Nothing wrong with British heritage. No Anglo should feel shame for that non-British royal family and their past actions . I agree with you that a national anthem should be about unity, equality etc.. Sadly that cannot and should not be acceptable to Australians until a solution is found.

An awakening is addressing history without the veneer that covers it. Kevin Ruidd took a big & positive step in the right direction with "Sorry" but twenty more need to be taken.

Kudos to Kevin Rudd and Malcolm Turnbull for taking on Murdoch.  Their success would mean a giant leap with half a dozen steps being passed.

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@4channel wrote:

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Anthony Mundine can be a polarising figure but he is nowhere near as polarising or divisive as the media that deliberately catches him off guard and twists things around to incite fear. If he has a hatred for any aspect of "white Australia" then that hatred is shared by many white Australians for the continued institutional racism, police brutality and disparity which is a painful reality to many Indigenous Australians.

Nothing wrong with British heritage. No Anglo should feel shame for that non-British royal family and their past actions . I agree with you that a national anthem should be about unity, equality etc.. Sadly that cannot and should not be acceptable to Australians until a solution is found.

An awakening is addressing history without the veneer that covers it. Kevin Ruidd took a big & positive step in the right direction with "Sorry" but twenty more need to be taken.

Kudos to Kevin Rudd and Malcolm Turnbull for taking on Murdoch.  Their success would mean a giant leap with half a dozen steps being passed.

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So I think you are saying that many white and black Australians hate each other. And there's nothing wrong with British heritage and we should not feel shame. 20 more sorry's are needed for the atrocities they committed against the indigenous. This will address history without the veneer? In the meantime, we just became "One".

I don't think saying sorry is enough. Thinking there is nothing wrong and not feeling shame about that part of our heritage which has led to the need to say sorry is very much the problem in the eyes of many indigenous Australians!

BTW, Kevin Rudd issued an apology for the stolen generation, not the ill treatment and murder of indigenous people following settlement.

[icyfroth]

We're not one, and we're not free.

[4channel]

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@not_for_sale2025 wrote:

So I think you are saying that many white and black Australians hate each other. And there's nothing wrong with British heritage and we should not feel shame. 20 more sorry's are needed for the atrocities they committed against the indigenous. This will address history without the veneer? In the meantime, we just became "One".

I don't think saying sorry is enough. Thinking there is nothing wrong and not feeling shame about that part of our heritage which has led to the need to say sorry is very much the problem in the eyes of many indigenous Australians!

BTW, Kevin Rudd issued an apology for the stolen generation, not the ill treatment and murder of indigenous people following settlement.

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What I am saying is that the system is still corrupt. It is also biased against Indigenous Australians. The representative for the corrupt and biased system is the mainstream media which is nothing more than an information mill to control how people think. Fix that and then folks may start to wake up.

What the British govt and the royal family have done, be it dealing in opium, plundering other countries is nothing to do with your heritage unless you want it to be. The Royal family are not even British.

What Rudd did was a start. What Gough Whitlam did was a start. What Malcolm Fraser did by distancing himself from the bigotry of the counterfeit conservative Liberal Party and resigning in disgust was a bold statement.

BTW: Actually seeing someone made accountable (Not in your lifetime buddy say some) for Australia's dirty shame of "Deaths in Custody" would be two steps in the right direction.

[icyfroth]

@4Channel

"the royal family are not even British"...

a large percentage of Britain's population is not "even British"...

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@not_for_sale2025 wrote:

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

I think any National Anthem expresses aspiration rather than reality. 

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The line now states, "Australians all let us rejoice, For we are one and free."

It seems it is supposed to be about what we are, in reality, not what we wannabe!

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"For we are supposed to be One but in reality we're just wannabes" just doesn't rhyme as well and doesn't fit in the patter of the anthem.