Sorry asylum seekers website

[freakiness]

http://sorryasylumseekers.com/

Nice to see not everyone is joining in the hatefest.

Well done Ryan Sheales.

[icyfroth]

Oh I'm sorry I missed it

[boris1gary]

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@monman12 wrote:

"it's a great idea, somewhere for people to visually express their views on our shameful behaviour"

Perhaps the same people B1G have expressed their views at the last election, and still retain them!

SMH Jan 2014

A strong majority of Australians, 60 per cent, also want the Abbott government to “increase the severity of the treatment of asylum seekers.”

Only 30 per cent of Australians think asylum seekers should not be treated more severely.

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perhaps, but  people also change their opinions, 60%, 30%,  whatever - I have yet to meet someone that has actually been asked in any of these "polls".

[lakeland27]

newspaper polls attract people with opinions , meaning .. a lot don't take part. their views unknown.

[k0llectable5]

I dont mean to be argumentative here but honestly how is this concept helping asylum seekers? Do you think that if any of them see this website or any of these messages they will get a warm fuzzy feeling inside and think "Oh well at least those Australians have compassion and empathy for me, now that makes me feel so much better about being locked up in here" Ryan himself has never even had any personal dealings with asylum seekers according to the interview from the provided link.  I cant imagine any politicians lobbying to change asylum seeker policies because a handful of Australians feel sorry for the detainees.  I just seems illogical to me.  People saying sorry for something that is no personal fault of their own.  And to say sorry on behalf of politicians who clearly are not sorry just doesn't make sense to me.  I'm not trying to justify our governments actions here, I just dont think it's constructive especially if people are doing it for some kind of personal gratification.

[freakiness]

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@secondhand-wonderland wrote:

I dont mean to be argumentative here but honestly how is this concept helping asylum seekers? Do you think that if any of them see this website or any of these messages they will get a warm fuzzy feeling inside and think "Oh well at least those Australians have compassion and empathy for me, now that makes me feel so much better about being locked up in here" Ryan himself has never even had any personal dealings with asylum seekers according to the interview from the provided link.  I cant imagine any politicians lobbying to change asylum seeker policies because a handful of Australians feel sorry for the detainees.  I just seems illogical to me.  People saying sorry for something that is no personal fault of their own.  And to say sorry on behalf of politicians who clearly are not sorry just doesn't make sense to me.  I'm not trying to justify our governments actions here, I just dont think it's constructive especially if people are doing it for some kind of personal gratification.

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It's probably not helping asylum seekers at the moment. Maybe it will encourage some to reconsider their views about the treatment of people who've had to run for their lives, maybe not.  

It's just people objecting to the cruel treatment our govt is dishing out, in our name.

[k0llectable5]

Dont get me wrong.  I have no problem with you posting it here.  It is a very important debate imo. But I wonder what do you think the govt should be doing? Whats the alternative?

[freakiness]

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@secondhand-wonderland wrote:

Dont get me wrong.  I have no problem with you posting it here.  It is a very important debate imo. But I wonder what do you think the govt should be doing? Whats the alternative?

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Process their claims would be a good start.

Process them honestly and allow those who pass muster to stay here.

[kobies_costume_jewelry]

What about the thousands of genuine refugee's waiting for their chance to leave those awful refugee camps in Africa?

Should we just say sorry somebody jump the queue and now demands they get processed straight away?

Think about it?

You are waiting in line for the cinema and somebody jumps the queue then demands to get let in free of charge.

Then they want a coke some popcorn and the best seats available etc etc.

And why do they do this because thats how their friends and relatives got in.

meanwhile you are still out in the queue waiting waiting waiting?

[freakiness]

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@kobies_costume_jewelry wrote:

What about the thousands of genuine refugee's waiting for their chance to leave those awful refugee camps in Africa?

Should we just say sorry somebody jump the queue and now demands they get processed straight away?

Think about it?

You are waiting in line for the cinema and somebody jumps the queue then demands to get let in free of charge.

Then they want a coke some popcorn and the best seats available etc etc.

And why do they do this because thats how their friends and relatives got in.

meanwhile you are still out in the queue waiting waiting waiting?

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The thing is there is no nice orderly queue like you get at the cinema.  It's a myth.

Would you want to raise your family in a tent camp without trying to make your way to a new country with opportunities?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuLyd6vzopA

I wonder what these people think?

[kobies_costume_jewelry]

Atleast they have a tent unlike most African's.

Who have to wait for years before they can come to Australia.

And why are they having to wait so long?

Because of queue jumpers.

 And most of them dont spend any time in camps.

They hop on a plane to Indonesia stay in hotel until they make it onto a boat that is unseaworthy, make into international waters then sabotage the boat and cry mayday.  

Then they hope and pray for Australia to come to their rescue.