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countessalmirena · ‎20-10-2021

This thread is for the specific purpose of checking on milestone information (quotations and videos rather than table-form/spreadsheet/database information that fit better into k1ooo's thread), and responses by representatives from our government, CHOs, etc.

It's official: Australia has passed the 70% double dose vaccination rate.

❝Australia's double-dose vaccination rate has passed 70 per cent of all adults aged 16 and over

It is a key milestone in the national reopening plan.

More than 33 million vaccine doses have been distributed nationwide, and the first-dose rate nationally has reached 85.5 percent.

New South Wales and the ACT have already passed the 80 percent vaccination milestone, and Victoria and Tasmania are expected to reach 70 percent double-dosed within two days.❞

A tremendous achievement, but of course there is still some patchiness. We'll have to see some good efforts to correct misinformation, to provide solid health information, and to take the vaccine to the people who are not able or not willing to access it easily by themselves.

countessalmirena · ‎20-12-2021

rogespeed, the health sector in Australia is at breaking point. I categorically state that.

There's a flow-on effect; it's not just the capacity for COVID-19 patients. it's the diminution of resources available for every other health issue and every other health emergency. It's also the utter exhaustion of working for hours - HOURS - in stinking sweating PPE that cuts into your face and against the back of your ears, sits on your head and creates a constant pressure resulting in neck aches and headaches, perspiring profusely all over (arms, back, neck, head, upper lip, hair, everywhere) and being unable to wipe away the perspiration, almost constant fogging up of glasses if one's wearing them, staggering on your feet with weariness, watching people's panicked desperate eyes pleading for help as they frantically try to breathe and being unable to relieve that, being abused by anti-vaccination relatives who badger you to administer ridiculous and ineffective medications that not only don't help but are also prohibited, bearing the extreme risk of contracting this horrible disease because if the virus can find a way in, it WILL find a way in...

It's being so tired that you can't sleep, and if you do sleep, you dream of gasping faces and the utter misery of being unable to let family be there in person for the last moments as transmission risk is too high. When you wake up, you're still tired, and you go in to work cringing at the knowledge of the demands that the day will bring.

Australia is not sitting snug and comfortable waiting for ICU beds to gently fill up. There are many hospitals all over Australia where there is nothing left to provide and nothing left to give, but the staff are still somehow giving everything in this exhausting, devastating fight against a vicious virus, while being abused, yelled at, spat at, shoved, told they are heroes while they just feel like powerless automatons doing over and above their job without being given respite, resources, and in many cases with patients' relatives being pugnacious and the patients themselves having been manipulated and lied to by anti-vaccination groups with their microchip and big pharma conspiracy nonsense.

springyzone · ‎26-12-2021

This isn't specifically about milestone information but I thought it might be interesting (concerning).

One of my daughters recently returned from a short holiday with her 2 children in Qld. We're from Vic. Specifically from suburban Melbourne.

They left Sun 19 Dec, returned 24th Dec, so it really was 'recent'.

Now, to get into Qld, you are supposed to be double vaxxed and also show a valid negative covid test taken within 72 hours of your flight.

Plus you are supposed to be able to show another negative covid test taken on Day 5. That presented her with worry as she was flying home early on the 24th so she wasn't sure if she had to have the second test or if she did, how she could show results from it before flying out. What was day 5 in any case? They ended up taking a second test on Tuesday, just as a back up plan.

All that stress for nothing. What she told me shocked me a little bit.

No one anywhere checked anything. She was never asked to show proof of vaccination, never asked to show her neg covid tests etc

Practically no one anywhere on the Gold Coast wore masks. Even in some places (I think she mentioned a petrol station as one example), there would be a sign on the door saying masks compulsory but inside, not a single customer would be bothering with one.

This comes at a time when we here in Vic are expected to QR code into every store and venue and when, up till recently, we had to show vaccination status before being allowed to enter some places.

When we here in Vic are used to wearing masks at places such as shopping centres, just as a matter of course.

Surely it would not have been that hard for airlines to have people show their vaccination status at least before boarding. Most people have phones and a glance is all it would take.

Instead, my daughter said they checked only a random few and she was not one of them.

Personally, I think that is not good enough. Every single passenger should be checked and the valid negative covid tests should be shown too.

Interestingly, (though stressfully for my daughter), just after arriving in Qld, she received some text messages. One was from her daughter's kindergarten to say 5 people in the Wed group had come down with covid. Luckily her daughter was only there for an hour on Wed.

The kinder message was saying her daughter needed to be tested and isolate for a week (which I think is false-I don't think is the case any longer)

And another text to say 3 children in her son's level at school had since tested positive and would have been infectious on the last day (which was the previous Tuesday for them).

As it happens, my daughter & her kids are fine but the point is, they potentially might not have been, yet no one in Qld is checking all interstate arrivals the way they implied they would.

I think Qld is in for a world of pain. She said they don't seem to take it seriously up there and the only place she saw many masks was at the airport itself.

rogespeed · ‎26-12-2021

Maybe the States/Federal/NHS expert's plan - controlled release of a currently mild southern hemisphere version , omicrom the fourth vaccine ?

rogespeed · ‎26-12-2021

Must have missed the vein, good job

rogespeed · ‎26-12-2021

By another reckoning 1 in 78 infected admitted to hospital in NSW ( meaning mainly Sydney city )

current active cases divided by hospitalised

130,701 Coronavirus Cases and 43,351 Active in NSW - COVID Live

padi*0409 · ‎26-12-2021

@rogespeed wrote:

Maybe the States/Federal/NHS expert's plan - controlled release of a currently mild southern hemisphere version , omicrom the fourth vaccine ?

You're as bad as some of the COVID deniers/anti-vaxxers/anti-maskers that infest Facebook.

"Must have missed the ~~vein~~ brain , good job......."

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springyzone · ‎27-12-2021

The stats on hospitalisation numbers per state have been on display now for months, but I think it is time they were jazzed up a little, they are currently not all that meaningful or having any impact on most of the population.

When people see or hear this, I think their eyes tend to glaze over and they think, yeah, sure, makes sense because most cases of covid are in Vic & NSW.

What we need now is a few extra columns to show us what % of those people are vaccinated (or unvaccinated).

We need some cold, hard facts. I cannot for the life of me see how this would be a breach of confidentiality as names of those in hospital or ICU are not being revealed. It would be fair enough if the % stats were only applied when numbers in any category rose to over 10. That would leave some categories in SA, NT & ACT blank and the individual vaccination status would not be revealed.

At the moment, I think we are seeing the rise of what I would call deniers. People who are starting to believe that there is no difference betwqeen vaxxed and unvaxxed when it comes to how likely they are to need hospitalisation.

I received this message from a friend who is a bit of a rabid anti vaxxer.

they don’t want to have Xmas with us. Fine… be discriminating …. Funny thing is, XXX and her partner got Covid despite being dble jabbed and were very ill and XXX was in hospital getting some intravenous to help her immune system cope (while) we are okay and no sniffles now for 2 years

I might add that XXX is a young person but has ongoing health issues so would have been vulnerable.

But the unstated text I am hearing from this friend and from others is that you might be even more likely to end up in hospital if you are double vaxxed.

That thought is definitely out there. I don't believe it is accurate as when my bro in law died of covid, the nursing staff told my sister in law he was one of the only ones on the ward who had been vaccinated.

Time to show the actual stats I think.

sandypebbles · ‎27-12-2021

A perfect match

Gotta look good in front the crew of course

springyzone · ‎28-12-2021

I emailed covidlive to see if they had any stats about vaccination rates of those in hospital.

The reply was that the information is patchy and hard to get hold of.

In my opinion, the government should be releasing it daily, along with other numbers.

This is what I was sent and the owner made the comment that the Vic data has not been updated since 18 Dec. It's a great site, covidlive, I am really impressed with how on the ball that man is with all the data. I had a reply very shortly after emailing. Maybe he should be in politics running the country, things would be very efficient.