State by State, Australia vs Elsewhere, in the age of COVID-19 and beyond

This thread is for the specific purpose of checking on milestone information (quotations and videos rather than table-form/spreadsheet/database information that fit better into k1ooo's thread), and responses by representatives from our government, CHOs, etc.

 

 

 

It's official: Australia has passed the 70% double dose vaccination rate.

 

 

Australia's double-dose vaccination rate has passed 70 per cent of all adults aged 16 and over

It is a key milestone in the national reopening plan.

More than 33 million vaccine doses have been distributed nationwide, and the first-dose rate nationally has reached 85.5 percent.

New South Wales and the ACT have already passed the 80 percent vaccination milestone, and Victoria and Tasmania are expected to reach 70 percent double-dosed within two days.❞

 

A tremendous achievement, but of course there is still some patchiness. We'll have to see some good efforts to correct misinformation, to provide solid health information, and to take the vaccine to the people who are not able or not willing to access it easily by themselves.

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@katistrophik wrote:

Not sure at this point if I am on topic or not, but the Vax is NOT truly voluntary any more and is as close to mandatory as it can get.

 

Myslef and my three family members all had to be vaxxed or not work as from 17 November - so to support ourselves and our respective families we were given NO choice - if that is not Mandatory, I don't know what it is.

I see it this way.  In a LOT of workplaces, it is a policy requirement that all staff be up-to-date with their vaccinations. The Coronavirus vaccination has now been added to the list.  Declining to have the vaccine, didn’t mean you were out of work, it does mean that you could no longer work for that employer under the new workplace requirements.  You were definitely free to seek other employment if you were absolutely against being vaccinated, and a die hard anti-corona vax person would have done just that. 

 

I am not in the for or against camp - my beliefs are my own and not for public consumption, but those that still beleive this is a "voluntary vax choice" - just wait......

 

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Latest updates for Victoria

 

Victoria has reached 89.3% fully vaccinated milestone for 16+

Victoria has also reached 88.5% fully vaccinated level for 12+

 

❝With Victoria set to hit the 90 per cent double dose milestone for eligible people in the coming days, the Acting Chief Health Officer has determined that almost all remaining restrictions in Victoria will ease from tonight – reaching Phase D of the National Plan.❞

 

Lifting of restrictions

The Acting Chief Health Officer has determined that from 11:59pm last night, Thursday 18 November, nearly all remaining restrictions would be lifted state-wide for fully vaccinated people.

 

There are also changes to self-quarantine obligations for COVID-19 positive cases and fully vaccinated close contacts of cases that are now in effect.

 

Cases and contacts who already had quarantine and/or testing requirements in place before 11:59pm on 18 November will be able to follow the new rules that apply to their situation.

 

If you have tested positive to COVID-19 (UPDATED):

  • You must quarantine at home for 10 days.
  • The people you live with must quarantine at home with you (for 7 days if fully vaccinated and for 14 days if not fully vaccinated).
  • You must notify people you've been in contact with while you were COVID-positive - friends, business associates, etc.
  • You must notify your employer/school/college/university about your positive result.
  • If your child tests positive, you must notify the relevant childcare provider/kindergarten/school.

 

Full checklists are on the coronavirus.vic.gov Your COVID checklist page.

 

 

❝From this coming weekend, fully vaccinated Victorians can hit the dance floor once again, there’ll be no limits in the home and no caps or density limits for cafés and restaurants.

 

The vaccinated economy will remain, as will masks in some high risk settings – as both are important in reducing risk as we get back to normal.

 

All indoor and outdoor events with less than 30,000 fully vaccinated attendees will be able to proceed with no special approval and outdoor events with 30,000 or more will only need to publish their COVIDSafe Plan.

 

Indoor venues – including stadiums that have a capacity of 30,000 or more – will need to get a one-off approval of their COVIDSafe Plan from the Victorian Government.

 

In good news for summer sports fans, major events like the Boxing Day Test and the Australian Open will be able to proceed at fully capacity, subject to the approval of the MCG and Melbourne Park’s COVIDSafe Plan.

 

Masks will still be required for primary school staff and visitors and for students in Years 3 to 6, for workers serving the public at hospitality venues, for workers and customers at indoor retail, for visitors and select workers in hospitals or care facilities, and for people using public transport, taxi/rideshare and planes.

 

Unless our health services see a significant jump in hospitalisations, customers for retail will no longer need to wear masks after 15 December - in line with NSW settings.

 

High-risk work settings such as corrections and meat, poultry and seafood processing will continue to require masks.

 

There will still be mask requirements, density limits and caps in place for weddings, funerals, places of worship and other settings if the vaccination status of attendees is not being checked. The usual exceptions will apply.

 

Non-essential retail settings across Victoria will join the vaccinated economy and will only be open to Victorians who are fully vaccinated, under 12 years and two months, or have a valid exemption.

 

Thanks to Victoria’s vaccination rate, self-quarantine obligations can be reduced across the board for COVID-19 cases and fully-vaccinated contacts. Victorians who test positive will be further empowered to take action and protect others, with simple advice and guidance to help them inform their ‘social contacts’ on what to do.

 

From 11:59pm tonight, the vast majority of people who come into contact with a confirmed positive case outside their home won’t have to self-quarantine. These contacts will be required to get a standard (PCR) test and isolate until they get a negative result.

 

This means exposure in places like offices, restaurants or nightclubs won’t automatically result in quarantine for the patrons or staff, who previously would have been designated Primary Close Contacts at Tier 1 exposure sites.

 

However, the Department of Health will continue to manage emerging outbreaks of concern and ‘superspreader events’ and can impose a quarantine period on contacts on a case-by-case basis, depending on evidence.

 

Cases are required to notify their workplace, school or childcare about their positive result. Once informed by the case, workplaces will also have to identify and notify employees and sub-contractors – but not customers – who were exposed to advise them to get tested.

 

Schools/childcare will also identify and inform staff and student contacts.

 

School and workplace contacts presenting to testing centres for their PCR test will also be offered Victorian-funded rapid antigen tests (RATs) for recommended use before entering sensitive settings.

 

In good news for businesses, the changes effectively mean the end of mandatory deep cleaning, and the Departmental ‘clearance’ process. They will self-manage their exposure in line with public health guidance. However, COVIDSafe practices are strongly encouraged and a COVIDSafe plan is still required.

 

Exposure sites will no longer be published. Instead, the Department will use the new alert function in the Service Victoria app to notify patrons of higher-risk venues where positive cases have been present – such as restaurants, gyms and nightclubs – and advise them to get tested.

 

Individuals who test positive are strongly recommended to tell the social contacts they have spent time with and encourage them to get tested. The Department will not trace or manage these contacts. With a simple call-to-action, the advice can move faster when the individual is empowered to do it among the people they know.

 

People who live with someone who has COVID-19 pose the highest transmission risk. Household contacts who have had more than four hours of contact with a case inside a household, accommodation or care setting must isolate for 7 days if fully vaccinated or 14 days if not fully vaccinated, with a PCR test required on day 0 and for release.

 

If children under 12 are household contacts, they will be considered fully vaccinated if everyone else in their household aged over 12 is fully vaccinated.

 

Workers exposed at work, and children who are exposed at school or early childhood centres, will need to show a negative PCR test result to return to work or school – with recommended RAT testing thereafter.

 

In addition to isolation changes for contacts, people who have COVID-19 will be required to isolate for 10 days, instead of 14 days.

 

These considerable changes are recommended by Victoria’s public health experts based on Burnet Institute modelling, behavioural insights and international experience – and are guided by the goal of an open, vaccinated society where both public health risks and social disruptions are minimised in a balanced way.❞

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I think Victoria's lifting of restrictions is too fast and too much at once.

 

I'll continue to wear a mask except when picnicking outside with vaccinated friends or family, or moving outside while maintaining social distancing from others.

 

I will be in a Do Not Hug zone. (Reminder to self: must get a T-shirt with that logo.)

 

BUT...

 

I'm glad to see that weddings, funerals and places of worship can go ahead with no caps if everyone attending is fully vaccinated.

 

Restaurants and concerts...!

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The thing I found strange was that the 2 states that had the highest record of vaccinations (NSW and VIC) also have the highest rates of new cases reported.

 

Not trying to be a smart a$$, but is this because vaccinations can sometimes cause the illness to occur in a milder form ?

 

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Kat - probably because - both NSW & Vic - are the most populated states.

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Well, if you are going to get all logical about it.........😆

 

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Never even gave that a thought duh
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…. Also because we had high case numbers before we went into vaccination overdrive, and opened up before those numbers got down to anywhere near 0… leaving zerophiles feeling very upset and uneasy …

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By big pharmas information their vaxxes are effective to about maximum 90% , so i read that as being 10% of vaxxxed people will not be effectively immunised ,  I was wondering whether an anti-body test at 2nd vaxx + 2 weeks would be useful to determine those still at elevated risk - and would detect any accidental placebo jabs

 

Should be provision for conscientious objectors, using the precedent  of wartime conscientious objectors

 

Is very rare to contract covid-19 again under normal ambient exposure densities

Incomplete data suggests about 15 x less chance of re-infection vs first time infected (all other factors being the same )

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2780557

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@rogespeed wrote:

By big pharmas information their vaxxes are effective to about maximum 90% , so i read that as being 10% of vaxxxed people will not be effectively immunised ,  I was wondering whether an anti-body test at 2nd vaxx + 2 weeks would be useful to determine those still at elevated risk - and would detect any accidental placebo jabs

 

Should be provision for conscientious objectors, using the precedent  of wartime conscientious objectors

 

Is very rare to contract covid-19 again under normal ambient exposure densities

Incomplete data suggests about 15 x less chance of re-infection vs first time infected (all other factors being the same )

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2780557


Did you drop Maths in year 5.

 

All vaccinated are 90% protected.

 

LOL - just LOL - at the 10% .

 

They are also protected. 

 

Where do you come up with this carp. 

 

I took Latin in school - I still can understand it more than this carp.

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