Sun Yang again snubbed

[davidc4430]

Sun Yang again snubbed on swimming world championships podium, this time by UK's Duncan Scott

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-23/british-swimmer-duncan-scott-refuses-to-shake-sun-yangs-hand/...

i wouldnt want to swim against a drug cheat either

BUT

what these protesting swimmers must realise they are swimming in a competion they signed up to

not unlike israel falou

they dont get to make public statements about things

as with israel, they have a choice to like it or lump it.

if enough swimmiers say 'we wont swim in a competion with him, we are standing out of swimming until hes removed' then that would show solidarity.

unfortunately swimmers have short careers and not swimming hurts them.

its going to be interesting what 'punishment' the governing body hands down on these protesters.

[bright.ton42]

I don't believe they     should be punished  for the passionate opinions they have and I do believe that  athletes have the right to speak out.

We don't know what went on behind the scenes either,  there might have been some very unpleasant personal  clashes.   

[not_for_sale2025]

I don't think it is the responsibility of swimmers to unite in protest. The responsibility lies with FINA and the World Anti-Doping Agency to meet their responsibilities. Horton and Scott have opened this issue up to the world, and at risk to their own careers. Doping in swimming is not new. The East Germans were found out in the 1970s. But the problem is poorly managed because of the wrong reasons e.g. money and affiliations to be lost. Honest swimmers just want a fair opportunity to achieve their potential after having dedicated their lives to the sport.

[springyzone]

Hmm, it seems Sun Yang definitely had a doping ban in 2014 and then earlier this year there was a question of whether he had breached some of the governing body's conditions. He was cleared but I see the anti doping agency is seeking to overturn that decision.

The real question should be-should someone who has had a definite doping conviction be allowed to compete in the coming Olympics at all?

I would say no.

I know that sounds harsh as we usually try to give people a second chance. But perhaps they could have different levels of conviction. Level 1, deliberately taking performance enhancing drugs, level 2, traces of a banned substance that could have been accidental eg a medicine. Level 1, out for life.

Harsh maybe, but it would make athletes pause before trying to cheat, if they knew the consequences could wreck their sports career.

[twyngwyn]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-24/dawn-fraser-backs-swimmers-protests-against-drug-cheat-sun-ya...

[cezm]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-27/australian-swimmer-shayna-jack-failed-doping-test/11353638

[davidc4430]

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@cezm wrote:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-27/australian-swimmer-shayna-jack-failed-doping-test/11353638

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failed a test, not guilty yet

but

should she be found guilty she should be banned for life.

although i think the whole drugs in sport is so open for abuse, it would be so easy to put drugs into a fellow athletes system unless they are living in a bubble with never touching anything from the real world.

a simple few drops of something in a waterbottle could do it.

we recently saw several people poisoned in the uk by russian spys (thats the claim)

[not_for_sale2025]

If you do the crime and am found guilty, you do the time. And the time is not life, it's four years.

Although we tend to get excited at these times, we still are a democracy that follows legal principles.

[davidc4430]

i said 'should' not 'will'

it was my 'opinion' on what should happen to those who get caught taking performance enhancing drugs.

i know the penatly now if 4 years (usually enough to end a career.)

the chinese creep wouldnt be swiming if i was in charge. (but i'm not)

so after being guilty of the crime hes back wining gold.

my only problem with the whole drugs in sport is its so easy to get a banned substance into an athlete killing their career.

did this happen to the aussie female swimmer? i have no idea but 'could' it have happened?

of course it could.