on 10-04-2015 12:32 AM
Ok we have had the "Poor Illegal Refugee" the "Poor Dole Bludger" the "Poor whatever" thread so now what about the "Poor Self Inflicted Addict" thread.
We may as well add them to the taxpayers burden as well. We can cater for their "special needs" out of the bottomless pit of our national debt.
on 11-04-2015 08:48 AM
poddster wrote:
I feel vibrant, energetic, enthusiastic and have a positive outlook, I have no addictions, no illnesses, no financial problems, no debts, I do as I please when I please, I have many enjoyable activities, I am never bored, I have no allergies, no aches or pains.
Where is the positive outlook that applies to the OP?
on 11-04-2015 09:06 AM
@icyfroth wrote:
@poddster wrote:What happens when the ones "needing" support exceed the providers?
The trend is that more and more "need" to depend on others for their "needs", they claim that it is their "right"
You are concerned, you better be the time is fast approaching.
The government should be tackling drug addiction from the other end, from where it begins. Heightened border security and stricter monitoring of suspect money transactions, tougher laws including execution of known drug dealers.
at the Doctor I guess you mean ?..... there wouldn't be a Pharmicist left alive
.... Big Pharma is streets ahead of the dealers on the street..... operating in your Main street right now
http://www.australianprescriber.com/magazine/37/3/79/81
Most people entering Australian alcohol and drug treatment describe unsanctioned use of prescription opioids and benzodiazepines in the preceding four weeks.5
DirectLine, a Victorian telephone alcohol and drug counselling service, now receives more calls about prescription opioids (31%) than heroin (12%).6
Many people detained by police test positive for benzodiazepines and prescription opioids.
In needle and syringe programs, the number of people who report that the last drug injected was a pharmaceutical opioid increased from 7% in 2000 to 27% in 2010.
Heroin was the main drug injected at the Sydney Medically Supervised Injecting Centre until 2009.
Monthly visits for injections of crushed and dissolved prescription opioid tablets (4000) now exceed those for heroin (1200).7
Poisons information centres and ambulance data from Victoria report increasing prescription opioid problems.
An increasing proportion of patients seeking medically-assisted treatment for opioid dependence nominate pharmaceutical opioids as their primary drug of concern.
In the late 1990s, heroin predominated as the cause of hospitalisations due to opioid poisoning, but by 2007–08 prescription opioids accounted for 80% of these admissions.
The number of overdose poisoning deaths involving prescription drugs now exceed those from road trauma in Victoria8 and the USA.9
Risks to the community include increased healthcare costs, criminal activity around diversion and trafficking of psychoactive drugs.
Pharmaceutical drug crime includes crime to obtain the drugs, and crime resulting from intoxication.
Drug seekers may present with fraudulent complaints to multiple doctors and pharmacies without telling each prescriber about the other.
Street prices for prescription opioids are similar to those for illicit drugs.
Forged prescriptions and identity fraud are used, and armed robbery of pharmacies is a problem. Patients may also share or on-sell their medication.
^^^^^^ The drugs with the worst addictions need to be taken from the shadows and those legal drug addicts young and old (whether they know it or not) need help with acknowledgement/diagnosis, support, and education.
on 11-04-2015 10:07 AM
@poddster wrote:That's odd Rosie, I feel vibrant, energetic, enthusiastic and have a positive outlook, I have no addictions, no illnesses, no financial problems, no debts, I do as I please when I please, I have many enjoyable activities, I am never bored, I have no allergies, no aches or pains.
Wow! I wish I could say ANY of those things - mind you, I cannot AFFORD to drink, smoke or get into illicit drugs, and even if I could afford to I think too much of my body to do any of that.
I feel more sorry for the families of drug users than I do for the drug users themselves. I agree that illicit drug users, in the majority of cases, do it to themselves. And, Yes sometimes they need help to get off it. I also agree that SOME will go back to it after being helped to get off it - they are hopeless cases.
The bottom line though, is that drug addiction, and I include smoking, and excessive drinking in that, is SELF INDUCED.
on 11-04-2015 10:08 AM
Instead of sitting in the outrage bus with your head in a bucket of sand.......................
Try Dr google and this search string endocannbinoids brains reward circuit treatment opoid addiction
http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/fpsyt.2013.00109/full
Cannabis is one of the most widely used illicit substance among users of stimulants such as cocaine and amphetamines.
Interestingly, increasing recent evidence points toward the involvement of the endocannabinoid system (ECBS) in the neurobiological processes related to stimulant addiction.
This article presents an up-to-date review with deep insights into the pivotal role of the ECBS in the neurobiology of stimulant addiction and the effects of its modulation on addictive behaviors.
This article aims to: (1) review the role of cannabis use and ECBS modulation in the neurobiological substrates of psychostimulant addiction and (2) evaluate the potential of cannabinoid-based pharmacological strategies to treat stimulant addiction.
A growing number of studies support a critical role of the ECBS and its modulation by synthetic or natural cannabinoids in various neurobiological and behavioral aspects of stimulants addiction.
Thus, cannabinoids modulate brain reward systems closely involved in stimulants addiction, and provide further evidence that the cannabinoid system could be explored as a potential drug discovery target for treating addiction across different classes of stimulants.
Cannabis.... the frontier treatment for the DISEASE........ substance addiction.
.... big pharma just cant get his hooks into it beacuse
....... legal dr google search string ....... patent pharmeceutical company big Pharma cannabis .....
on 11-04-2015 10:22 AM
gotta love those boffins at Harvard.... flat earthers take note....
http://www.helpguide.org/harvard/how-addiction-hijacks-the-brain.htm
In the 1930s, when researchers first began to investigate what caused addictive behavior, they believed that people who developed addictions were somehow morally flawed or lacking in willpower.
Overcoming addiction, they thought, involved punishing miscreants or, alternately, encouraging them to muster the will to break a habit.
The scientific consensus has changed since then.
Today we recognize addiction as a chronic disease that changes both brain structure and function.
Just as cardiovascular disease damages the heart and diabetes impairs the pancreas, addiction hijacks the brain.
This happens as the brain goes through a series of changes, beginning with recognition of pleasure and ending with a drive toward compulsive behavior.
Over time, the brain adapts in a way that actually makes the sought-after substance or activity less pleasurable.
In nature, rewards usually come only with time and effort.
Addictive drugs and behaviors provide a shortcut, flooding the brain with dopamine and other neurotransmitters.
Our brains do not have an easy way to withstand the onslaught.
Addictive drugs, for example, can release two to 10 times the amount of dopamine that natural rewards do, and they do it more quickly and more reliably.
In a person who becomes addicted, brain receptors become overwhelmed.
The brain responds by producing less dopamine or eliminating dopamine receptors—an adaptation similar to turning the volume down on a loudspeaker when noise becomes too loud.
As a result of these adaptations, dopamine has less impact on the brain’s reward center.
People who develop an addiction typically find that, in time, the desired substance no longer gives them as much pleasure.
They have to take more of it to obtain the same dopamine “high” because their brains have adapted—an effect known as tolerance.
Compulsion takes over
At this point, compulsion takes over.
The pleasure associated with an addictive drug or behavior subsides—and yet the memory of the desired effect and the need to recreate it (the wanting) persists.
It’s as though the normal machinery of motivation is no longer functioning.
The learning process mentioned earlier also comes into play.
The hippocampus and the amygdala store information about environmental cues associated with the desired substance, so that it can be located again.
These memories help create a conditioned response—intense craving—whenever the person encounters those environmental cues.
Cravings contribute not only to addiction but to relapse after a hard-won sobriety.
A person addicted to heroin may be in danger of relapse when he sees a hypodermic needle, for example, while another person might start to drink again after seeing a bottle of whiskey.
Conditioned learning helps explain why people who develop an addiction risk relapse even after years of abstinence.
on 11-04-2015 12:15 PM
@***super_nova*** wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:
@am*3 wrote:Execute one or one hundred drug dealers, there will be plenty more willing to become drug dealers (for the $$)
How is that going to stop the demand for drugs?
It won't stop the demand. But it will help stop the supply.
Not according to statistics from the countries that have death penalty. It dos not stop the drug supply and it does not stop people killing somebody.
You are only interested in vendetta, executing the person who supplied your grandchild is not going to solve anything. I know some people who had kids addicted; those who gave them unconditional support and help, got them through as many rehab programs as it took, eventually got them through it. One had really good result with Naltrexone . People take drugs for the same reason that they drink, to drown their sorrow. Help them to get over the pain and you are half way there.
Nah. I have no thoughts of revenge. I would just like to see the supply chain interrupted. Broken even. But I know that's too much to hope for.
People never really recover fully from serious drug addiction. They may be able to function, but not really really recover productive life as it should be lived. Contributing to society instead of being a burden on it.
on 11-04-2015 12:30 PM
Rubbish. Our society is littered with people who have overcome addictions and gone on to contribute to society. Here is one Queenslander..
http://www.emsah.uq.edu.au/awsr/new_site/awbr_archive/140/kilroy.htm
on 11-04-2015 12:37 PM
Polks thats right, a friends daughter was in to drugs heavy in her teens, she cleaned up.
Went on later to get married have twins, start her own Business and is very successful.
Her Daughters are both last year at Uni.
I once very worried mother is so proud.
on 11-04-2015 12:41 PM
Some do recover and turn the corner but I certainly agree that many don't though I don't know the statistics. Having worked with people with addictions I have seen some who turned their life around, with a lot of help of course, and time. One heavily addicted heroin user has been clean for years and held down the same job for years and often does public speaking now on how she .was able to change her life so dramatically. I don't know what the ingredient is that makes some able to do this, and others not.
on 11-04-2015 12:44 PM
Professor Greg Newbold in Nz did time for drugs and was a user, now he is one of NZs leading criminologists.