on 12-01-2014 12:25 PM
Teacher sacked for putting a student in a head lock despite being punched by the youth says staff are powerless
TEACHER who was sacked for misconduct including putting a student in a headlock after the youth punched him said the NSW education system left teachers "powerless to discipline kids".
Science and agriculture teacher Stephen Krix was fired from Riverstone High School when he fought back against a year-10 student who refused to work and punched him in the face during a class.
Mr Krix - a "squarely built" 51-year-old who had worked in various public and private teaching roles since 1989 - told The Sunday Telegraph he acted in self-defence when he put the "slight" student in a headlock during a science class in May 2011.
The incident came after the student refused to take off his headphones, told Mr Krix to f*** off several times and punched the teacher when he stood close to him with a worksheet and refused to move
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The incident was outlined in the NSW Industrial Relations Commission last Wednesday where Mr Krix lost an appeal against the sacking he claimed was "harsh, unreasonable and unjust".
In an interview with The Sunday Telegraph, Mr Krix, who now works in the security industry, said the public system was failing kids because teachers feared being sacked if they disciplined students.
He said students were leaving public schools without the self-restraint required to cope with post-school life.
It's a joke - that's why people are running to private schools," Mr Krix said.
"Eighty per cent of kids are screwed over by the state system because of a lack of discipline given to a minority of bad kids who disrupt classes," he said.
"You have to have zero tolerance … if a kid is behaving badly in the classroom he needs to be extracted and all the kids that are behaving themselves need to be able to get educated."
In relation to the student, Mr Krix said: "It's not like he's some sort of pathological killer … he's just a kid who needed discipline and wasn't getting it. If he's given the guidelines then he knows where the boundary is".
A NSW Department of Education and Communities representative told the commission Mr Krix should have stood down from any physical confrontation.
The representative said the Teaching Service Act meant that teachers had to respond to situations with the safety of students being the top priority.
A very true comment from a poster on that page....
The day will come when no one will want to become a high school teacher...it has been getting worse for years now.
Education will be via the internet for a teacher's safety .T
he students hold the power .
Has anyone got the guts to swing this around...I doubt it.
Then again, anyone who wants to become a secondary teacher in the public system ,I guess, deserves all that is coming their way if they haven't heeded the warning signals by now to AVOID this once great profession!
Solved! Go to Solution.
on 15-01-2014 08:59 AM
@daydream**believer wrote:
@azureline** wrote:
@daydream**believer wrote:Yeh, my son had a teacher who "retreated" from a wild child in his class.
The boy was going off so the teacher just walked out of the class room. The boy then chose to pick on other kids in the class, including my son.
I wish the teacher had put the kid in a headlock instead and dragged him out the class.
BTW, the child was only 10 yrs old. Imagine what he would be likne in Yr 10
that teacher had a protocol to follow and didn't. Teacher should have taken the other students with him/her. He/she put those children at risk.
The teacher ended up doing the above 3 times before finally being put on stress leave. The class didnt see that teacher for the rest of the year
Thats a good thing then, if he can't keep them safe, he shouldn't be there.
on 15-01-2014 09:01 AM
on 15-01-2014 09:04 AM
how am I the problem??
on 15-01-2014 09:04 AM
@polksaladallie wrote:Teachers are NOT powerless, and to continue saying so feeds into the minds of parents and students who disregard boundaries.
The tenor of this statement has been demonstrated in many posts here.
Many people choose the wrong (for them) career path. Perhaps not enough information is provided at the time, but it is never too late to change direction. Better that than to be unhappy in one's work.
15-01-2014 09:05 AM - edited 15-01-2014 09:06 AM
@ronronny1970 wrote:
Just read the part where the boy comes into the classroom late and refused many times to follow lawful instruction by the teacher. You think it is ok for students to behave like this, but I think it is abhorrent
Yes it is but it still does not excuse this teachers behaviour. Teachers cannot allow themselves to take the bait.
It reminds me of woman I knew many years ago whose boyfriend was charged withhaving sex with one of his pupils. She said it was the girl's fault because she threw herself at him! I have seen well endowed girls unbuttoning their tops and and standing as close to male teachers as they could, or sitting with their legs apart & flirting. Does that justify having sex with them?
on 15-01-2014 09:08 AM
on 15-01-2014 02:51 PM
on 15-01-2014 04:31 PM
BTW, teachers can put their hands on a student and forcibly stop them from injuring another student or a teacher. There are rules that must be followed.
Perhaps he didn't stop to consider that the whole story would come out if he took it to ACA.
on 15-01-2014 04:50 PM
rules must be followed....
reminds me of..."I was only following orders"
on 15-01-2014 04:53 PM
How does that compare here?