Teacher sacked for putting a student in a head lock despite being punched by the youth

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Teacher sacked for putting a student in a head lock despite being punched by the youth says staff are powerless 

 

 

 TEACHER who was sacked for misconduct including putting a student in a headlock after the youth punched him said the NSW education system left teachers "powerless to discipline kids".

 

Science and agriculture teacher Stephen Krix was fired from Riverstone High School when he fought back against a year-10 student who refused to work and punched him in the face during a class.

 

Mr Krix - a "squarely built" 51-year-old who had worked in various public and private teaching roles since 1989 - told The Sunday Telegraph he acted in self-defence when he put the "slight" student in a headlock during a science class in May 2011.

The incident came after the student refused to take off his headphones, told Mr Krix to f*** off several times and punched the teacher when he stood close to him with a worksheet and refused to move

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The incident was outlined in the NSW Industrial Relations Commission last Wednesday where Mr Krix lost an appeal against the sacking he claimed was "harsh, unreasonable and unjust".

 

In an interview with The Sunday Telegraph, Mr Krix, who now works in the security industry, said the public system was failing kids because teachers feared being sacked if they disciplined students.

 

He said students were leaving public schools without the self-restraint required to cope with post-school life.

 

It's a joke - that's why people are running to private schools," Mr Krix said.

 

"Eighty per cent of kids are screwed over by the state system because of a lack of discipline given to a minority of bad kids who disrupt classes," he said.

 

"You have to have zero tolerance … if a kid is behaving badly in the classroom he needs to be extracted and all the kids that are behaving themselves need to be able to get educated."

 

In relation to the student, Mr Krix said: "It's not like he's some sort of pathological killer … he's just a kid who needed discipline and wasn't getting it. If he's given the guidelines then he knows where the boundary is".

 

A NSW Department of Education and Communities representative told the commission Mr Krix should have stood down from any physical confrontation.

 

The representative said the Teaching Service Act meant that teachers had to respond to situations with the safety of students being the top priority.

 

more here http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/teacher-sacked-for-putting-a-student-in-a-head-lock-despit...

 

 

A very true comment from a poster on that page....

 

The day will come when no one will want to become a high school teacher...it has been getting worse for years now.

 

Education will be  via the internet for a teacher's safety .T

 

he students hold the power .  

 

Has anyone got the guts to swing this around...I doubt it.

 

Then again, anyone who wants to become a secondary teacher in the public system ,I guess, deserves all that is coming their way if they haven't heeded the warning signals by now to AVOID this once great profession! 

 

 

 

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No ..an extreme overreaction and unwise to associate that ex teacher with a pedophile list in this thread or anywhere else.


Mr Krix was put in Category 1 of the child protection list, which is the same category for child molesters and child pornographers, which means he can no longer work with children.

 

Link To ACA Article - at 4.07 mins

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Category 1 of the child protection list,  which means he can no longer work with children.

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and reading the Judges comments, I would think it was appropriate that he no longer works with children.

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Why didn't the teacher take the warnings he was given prior to the headlock incident seriously considering he was on probation?

Why was his account of a number of events deemed unacceptable?

 

Commisioner Newall:

 

112  I note that Mr Krix makes no concession that any of his conduct was wrong or even ill-advised, save that he concedes that greater precautions might have been taken with the experiment in which the student was set on fire.

 

 

 

116 Mr Schipp: a senior Departmental employee of many years standing and the decisionmaker in this case.

 

 What concerned me most about it was that by his own behaviour he escalated, appeared to provoke and make situations worse

 

I would have expected a teacher at any stage of some of these issues we were looking at, to take the opportunity to step back, not easy to do. Mr Krix was sworn at, abused, that should never happen to any teacher but I have taught for 38 years it happened to me and the truth of the matter is that we have to have a way of dealing with that appropriately.

 

If it becomes, I've got to save face or if it becomes a power game or you can't say that to me and this is a way I will react, then you are not suitable to be a teacher.

 

134  The fundamental problem in Mr Krix's case, however, is that I am simply unable to accept his account of a number of critical events. Procedural questions could not change this.

 

 

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@am*3 wrote:

Why didn't the teacher take the warnings he was given prior to the headlock incident seriously considering he was on probation?

Why was his account of a number of events deemed unacceptable?

 

Commisioner Newall:

 

112  I note that Mr Krix makes no concession that any of his conduct was wrong or even ill-advised, save that he concedes that greater precautions might have been taken with the experiment in which the student was set on fire.

 

 

 

116 Mr Schipp: a senior Departmental employee of many years standing and the decisionmaker in this case.

 

 What concerned me most about it was that by his own behaviour he escalated, appeared to provoke and make situations worse

 

I would have expected a teacher at any stage of some of these issues we were looking at, to take the opportunity to step back, not easy to do. Mr Krix was sworn at, abused, that should never happen to any teacher but I have taught for 38 years it happened to me and the truth of the matter is that we have to have a way of dealing with that appropriately.

 

If it becomes, I've got to save face or if it becomes a power game or you can't say that to me and this is a way I will react, then you are not suitable to be a teacher.

 

134  The fundamental problem in Mr Krix's case, however, is that I am simply unable to accept his account of a number of critical events. Procedural questions could not change this.

 

 


I think there were other adult/teacher witnesses to a lot of it.

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If you are following this and want to object to this teachers dismissal there is Facebook page called Fix Our Schools.

 

If you have worked in any bureacracy and understand how some of these systems work with some of their organisational flaws  then I suggest you "like" the Facebook page in support in an attempt to bring back common sense into our failing school system. Or you can just continue to "chat" about it, the choice is yours

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They weren't

 

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i'll continue to chat about it as a facebook page is hardly going to change anything 😄

having a peek at the page in question...it isnt about fixing schools at all, its a support page for the ex teacher, might want to look at changing the name?

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I don't want to support this ex-teacher. He was dealt with appropriately imo.

 

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Student that punched a teacher who was subsequently fired for putting him in a headlock feels no remorse

 

 STUDENT who punched his teacher in the head during class said he's not sorry the man was sacked for putting him in a headlock.

 

Former Riverstone High School student Jarrad O'Hanlon told The Sunday Telegraph he felt no remorse over the 2011 incident which ended the twenty-year career of teacher Stephen Krix.

 

Mr Krix, then a probationary science and agriculture teacher, was fired for misconduct for breaking NSW Department of Education and Communities strict guidelines by making physical contact with a student.

 

Mr O'Hanlon refused to take off his headphones during a science lesson, told the Mr Krix to "f*** off" several times - before punching him when he stood close to the student and refused to move.

 

O'Hanlon, 18, was suspended over the incident, but claimed the teacher deserved to be sacked.

 

"I don't feel bad because he started it," Mr O'Hanlon said. "He provoked it."

 

Full story here and some fantastic comments :

 

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/student-that-punched-a-teacher-who-was-subsequently-fired-...

 

 

 

 

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