Teacher sacked for putting a student in a head lock despite being punched by the youth

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Teacher sacked for putting a student in a head lock despite being punched by the youth says staff are powerless 

 

 

 TEACHER who was sacked for misconduct including putting a student in a headlock after the youth punched him said the NSW education system left teachers "powerless to discipline kids".

 

Science and agriculture teacher Stephen Krix was fired from Riverstone High School when he fought back against a year-10 student who refused to work and punched him in the face during a class.

 

Mr Krix - a "squarely built" 51-year-old who had worked in various public and private teaching roles since 1989 - told The Sunday Telegraph he acted in self-defence when he put the "slight" student in a headlock during a science class in May 2011.

The incident came after the student refused to take off his headphones, told Mr Krix to f*** off several times and punched the teacher when he stood close to him with a worksheet and refused to move

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The incident was outlined in the NSW Industrial Relations Commission last Wednesday where Mr Krix lost an appeal against the sacking he claimed was "harsh, unreasonable and unjust".

 

In an interview with The Sunday Telegraph, Mr Krix, who now works in the security industry, said the public system was failing kids because teachers feared being sacked if they disciplined students.

 

He said students were leaving public schools without the self-restraint required to cope with post-school life.

 

It's a joke - that's why people are running to private schools," Mr Krix said.

 

"Eighty per cent of kids are screwed over by the state system because of a lack of discipline given to a minority of bad kids who disrupt classes," he said.

 

"You have to have zero tolerance … if a kid is behaving badly in the classroom he needs to be extracted and all the kids that are behaving themselves need to be able to get educated."

 

In relation to the student, Mr Krix said: "It's not like he's some sort of pathological killer … he's just a kid who needed discipline and wasn't getting it. If he's given the guidelines then he knows where the boundary is".

 

A NSW Department of Education and Communities representative told the commission Mr Krix should have stood down from any physical confrontation.

 

The representative said the Teaching Service Act meant that teachers had to respond to situations with the safety of students being the top priority.

 

more here http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/teacher-sacked-for-putting-a-student-in-a-head-lock-despit...

 

 

A very true comment from a poster on that page....

 

The day will come when no one will want to become a high school teacher...it has been getting worse for years now.

 

Education will be  via the internet for a teacher's safety .T

 

he students hold the power .  

 

Has anyone got the guts to swing this around...I doubt it.

 

Then again, anyone who wants to become a secondary teacher in the public system ,I guess, deserves all that is coming their way if they haven't heeded the warning signals by now to AVOID this once great profession! 

 

 

 

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that's what I thought was the case too

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No, that is just acacia's idea of how naughty boys should be dealt with, he is most likely posting that to windup posters.

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Oh, I would never try to wind up posters. What are you thinking?

 

 

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Smiley

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When I went to school all of the (male) teachers carried a cane and they used it judiciously.

 

Lots of the kids in my class didn't want to see the time they spent in that class wasted by a few disruptive kids.

 

Those kids were stealing our time. The time we spent trying to become educated.

 

What is the solution to the problem of disruptive kids in a classroom?

 

In my day . . . . back in pre-historic times, teachers were allowed a little bit more discretion about how they handled disruptive elements.

 

Kids need to learn that there are limits on their behaviour which if they choose to exceed will incur penalties.

 

A good smack around the ear or a headlock or two is a small price to pay to learn about the wonders and the benefits of living in a truly civilised society.

 

 

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"The incident came after the student refused to take off his headphones, told Mr Krix to f*** off several times and punched the teacher when he stood close to him with a worksheet and refused to move."

 

 

A headlock . . . . is getting off lightly.

 

If we allow young people to learn that there are benefits for their thuggery and that there are no adverse consequences, then we do our society a grave dis-service.

 

 

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@acacia_pycnantha wrote:

When I went to school all of the (male) teachers carried a cane and they used it judiciously.

 

Lots of the kids in my class didn't want to see the time they spent in that class wasted by a few disruptive kids.

 

Those kids were stealing our time. The time we spent trying to become educated.

 

What is the solution to the problem of disruptive kids in a classroom?

 

In my day . . . . back in pre-historic times, teachers were allowed a little bit more discretion about how they handled disruptive elements.

 

Kids need to learn that there are limits on their behaviour which if they choose to exceed will incur penalties.

 

A good smack around the ear or a headlock or two is a small price to pay to learn about the wonders and the benefits of living in a truly civilised society.

 

 


I remember those times.  I remember the weak kids at school got beaten up by the bullies and the teachers laughed because it was so funny.  I remember a girl telling me she was raped at a party.  She didn't complain because she thought it was her fault for being drunk.  I remember being caned so hard and so frequently that blood blisteres appeared on my hand.  I remember school cadets being sexually assaulted because "it's just harmless fun" and "they should learn to take a joke".

 

Those days were not so great. 

 

 

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I must have went to school a bit earlier than you did, cos there was never any sexual assault in my school.

 

There were, however, quite a few male teachers who wielded their canes to great effect.

 

How does one teach cocky little boy kids to behave and not waste everybody else's time in class?

 

A threat? . . of what?

 

if it's an empty threat then it is worse than useless.

 

 

 

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I never said they were great times.

 

They were very authoritarian times, but the disruptive kids came to understand that their behaviour would be tolerated just so long as they were prepared to pay the price for it.

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You don't think that, given people of your generation are the parents of these unruly teens and young adults now, that perhaps that has had an effect on the current situation? and maybe is the cause of it?

Maybe it has had far reaching consequences.

Not to mention that our worst criminals appear to have been subjected to violence and abuse as children.

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