on 03-10-2015 02:24 PM
YEP! I warned over 5 years ago that this was coming also.It gets worse.All of this is in the Bible.There is a religious war coming soon.Sorry to advise but the atheists lose.
It turns nuclear.
on 10-10-2015 02:06 PM
If I were in your position as
A migrant I would very much
Appreciate what had been
Bestowed upon me and
Would be reluctant to support
Any religious group that would
Take away those privileges with
The blink of an eye
Given the chance
on 10-10-2015 02:09 PM
i have a feeling that the great she elephant
knows exactly what the difference is
between our post war immigration intake
and the current refugees situation.
her example is irrelevant to the discussion
The whole point is that, basically I don't see the difference - apart from the fact that I was made to feel welcomes and current refugees mostly aren't . Once you have been accepted as a permanent resident, then your entitlements should be exactly the same regardless of how you came here. If becoming an Australian citizen were to be made a requirement for receiving benefits, then I would be quite happy to go along with that, but the post I was initially replying to was complaining about refugees BECAUSE they take out Australian citizenship
on 10-10-2015 02:22 PM
@lurker172602 wrote:Interesting points you raise lapetus. I wonder about your statements that Islam holds itself as the only true faith though. I'm not religious at all but I have heard the Roman Catholic Mass a few times and heard, amongst other things:
For you alone are the Holy One, you alone are the Lord, you alone are the Most High, Jesus Christ, with the Holy Spirit, in the glory of God the Father. Amen
I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.
Same thing surely? And, in my view anyway, equally as damaging.
dont know what they preach in their
churches but haven't heard of any
catholic anti infidel extremism.
looks like they have moved on from
the middle ages, evolved, adapted.
and that is the difference.
doesnt 'catholic' mean universal/
all inclusive?
on 10-10-2015 02:30 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:i have a feeling that the great she elephant
knows exactly what the difference is
between our post war immigration intake
and the current refugees situation.
her example is irrelevant to the discussion
The whole point is that, basically I don't see the difference - apart from the fact that I was made to feel welcomes and current refugees mostly aren't . Once you have been accepted as a permanent resident, then your entitlements should be exactly the same regardless of how you came here. If becoming an Australian citizen were to be made a requirement for receiving benefits, then I would be quite happy to go along with that, but the post I was initially replying to was complaining about refugees BECAUSE they take out Australian citizenship
ok.
i read it differently. i thought the post
was suggesting some refugees cheat
the system. which is completely different
to our post-war immigration program where
we needed people to populate australia -
as you said, we paid them to come here.
(populate or perish)
that is why i still feel your example was
not relevant to this discussion.
10-10-2015 02:51 PM - edited 10-10-2015 02:52 PM
@opmania wrote:
If I were in your position as
A migrant I would very much
Appreciate what had been
Bestowed upon me and
Would be reluctant to support
Any religious group that would
Take away those privileges with
The blink of an eye
Given the chance
Did I ever say I didn't appreciate what had been bestowed upon me?.
And while I acknowledge there will always be extremists and crackpots (google Jack van Tongeren or the Hilto Hotel Bombing) I have never personally met a member of that 'other religious group' who wanted to take any of my privilages from me - and I suspect neither have you.
My dentist is a Muslim, the proprietors of one of my local cafes are Muslims, two of the doctors at my local surgery are Muslims and several of the nurses who cared for my father when he was dying were Muslims - and not one of them has ever shown any desire either to kill me, convert me, or subject me to Sharia Law.
on 10-10-2015 02:54 PM
Not yet
on 10-10-2015 02:56 PM
You ain't seen nothing yet
on 10-10-2015 03:11 PM
And while I acknowledge there will always be extremists and crackpots
hmmm....i think that is a little naive.
this current threat is different.
these terrorist leaders are probably
a lot smarter than you think and
much better organised than you think.
internet/social media plays a huge role,
something that was not there before.
on 10-10-2015 03:11 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:It actually makes you a leech.
My parents came from another country. Collected nothing from the government, ever, became citizens as soon as they could.
Oh, it gets even worse, Nev. I was actually paid to come here - I was a ten quid tourist.
But I'm curious, didn't your mum get child endowment for you? Was she a stay-at-home mum and if so didn't your dad claim her as a dependnat on his tax?, didn't you go to school here? (even private schools received government subsidies)
Their eyes always gloss over when child endowment and education allowances are mentioned.
Some say "Child endowment was only 50 cents a week". In 1964, 50 cents per hour was the going rate for cleaning someone's house. What is it now? $20, $25 ? $20 per week to help out with a child is excellent.
on 10-10-2015 03:24 PM
@opmania wrote:
Believe it or not there are some
People in this country who
Wont accept handouts and
Would rather work for their
Money
I worked for the most part of 60 years and was still eligible for child endowment, education allowance, part widow's pension (I was not a widow), and age pension.
Should I have refused the help?