11-05-2015 06:54 PM - edited 11-05-2015 06:56 PM
Solved! Go to Solution.
on 12-05-2015 04:01 PM
It's Joe Hockey, after the big Tax Dodgers.
How many $4.- does he need to make one billion?
Erica
Actually it is the small dodgers (cash in hand/black economy) that notch up many $billions:
EVERY time a tradie offers a cheaper quote for cash or a cleaner fails to declare a cash payment, the rest of Australia’s PAYG workers pick up a tab — as much as $25 billion a year.
I recently had a concrete slab poured for a new garage/shed and was quoted $2500. Wanted to pay by money transfer and an irate concreter said "cash". When I demanded a signed invoice he tried to add 10% (said GST) . Actually not legal after quoting.
I pointed out that I would be claiming a small % of the cost from the ATO (8% work office) and he would be well advised to be legal.
He never returned, after the slab had set, to cut the stress relieving grooves, which I then had to.
on 12-05-2015 04:15 PM
on 12-05-2015 04:18 PM
I'm really amused at the amount of people here that are just such amazing little well behaved citizens. FGS whats the problem with tradies getting a few cash jobs here and there, or a business stashing a little of the daily cash takings for a rainy day. People who own their own businesses work really hard and long hours imo they deserve to pocket a bit of their earnings. I dont care if it's illegal, it's their right.
EVERY time a tradie offers a cheaper quote for cash or a cleaner fails to declare a cash payment, the rest of Australia’s PAYG workers pick up a tab — as much as $25 billion a year.
Thats bulldust imo. Just over exagerated hype to make sure all the "workers" declare every last penny and pay every cent thats due to the ato.
on 12-05-2015 04:53 PM
" I dont care if it's illegal, it's their right."
If it is illegal, it is illegal. Not a right.
Do you suggest a society where individuals can choose to obey. or otherwise. what is the law of the land? That is called anarchy.
on 12-05-2015 05:27 PM
@monman12 wrote:" I dont care if it's illegal, it's their right."
If it is illegal, it is illegal. Not a right.
Do you suggest a society where individuals can choose to obey. or otherwise. what is the law of the land? That is called anarchy.
Yes actually I do. Most people are good people who work hard, use common sense and they dont need the government to rule over absolutely every aspect of their lives. I dont endorse people to pay no tax at all, but I think it's fair for hard working business owners to take advantage of the cash side of their businesses wherever they can. This money will flow back into the economy in some way or other eventually anyway, so whats the big deal?
It's illegal to have an unregistered dog too, doesn't mean every person who hasn't registered their dog is an anarchist criminal... You always go to the absolute extremes with your counter arguements MM. There are always exceptions inbetween the extremes...
on 12-05-2015 05:45 PM
"I think it's fair for hard working business owners to take advantage of the cash side of their businesses wherever they can. This money will flow back into the economy in some way or other eventually anyway, so whats the big deal? "
That is what a lot of the Geek population thought apropos paying tax..
If you do not like the law of the land use the democratic process to change it, otherwise you are just a petty criminal dodging tax..
"money will flow back into the economy in some way or other eventually anyway,"
Wrong, if everyone abrogated their responsibility to pay tax, the money would circulate outside of the government, with the result that none would be available to run the country.
on 12-05-2015 06:07 PM
I dont care if it's illegal, it's their right.
Is it their right to claim (steal from other taxpayers) for:
Mechanical Expenses and fuel for the fishing boat, mower and non-work related holiday road trips.
Hardware Purchases from the Green or Blue places for work around the home.
Don't forget, they could be paying the (slaves) labourers in cash. Reduce super, workers comp. PAYG tax, etc
Labourers probably claiming the dole.
Where does it stop?
DEB
on 12-05-2015 06:22 PM
I dont care if it's illegal, it's their right
What about PAYG workers? Where is their "illegal right" to play the cash economy?
on 12-05-2015 07:14 PM
gee i better go tell the TPB and my employers that we are all wrong
heres a thought, IF you happened to have 45 deducted in tax from an intermittant or one off payment in a financial year WHY would you even bother to claim that back???, weighing up time energy and effort, for a measly 45 ?? i suppose the government of the day need all the money they can get, i would save my energy
now hang on, i hsvr to go call the boss and tell him the ebay forum says we professional tax accountants are wrong wrong erong
on 12-05-2015 07:58 PM
Ok, let me explain it again.
I thought, because I had fallen well below the tax free threshold, I wasn't required to lodge a return. I was perfectly happy for them to keep my $4, and that would have been the end of it.
But ........... the ATO for whatever reason (but I suspect the $4 withheld) sent me a letter requiring me to lodge a return for every year since 2010.
I went to their "Do I need to Lodge" site and, because of the honest answers I made, found I did need to lodge a return for the 2013/14 tax year.
Believe me, I wouldn't have bothered to claim my precious $4 if they hadn't required me to.