The Appalling Asylum Seeker Conditions

[azureline**]

This is disgraceful and I can only hope the people who are in charge fix this asap.

An asylum seeker who was moved off Nauru to give birth is being locked up for 18 hours a day in a detention centre in Brisbane while her week-old baby remains in hospital with respiratory problems.

The case of Latifa, a 31-year-old woman of the persecuted Rohingya people of Myanmar, has shocked churches and refugee advocates.

She was separated from her baby on Sunday, four days after a caesarean delivery, and has since been allowed to visit him only between 10am and 4pm in Brisbane's Mater Hospital. The boy, named Farus, has respiratory problems and needs round-the-clock medical care.

Latifa is confined to the Brisbane Immigration Transit Accommodation, 20 minutes away, where her husband and two children, four and seven, are being held.

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Latifa's husband, Niza, is not allowed to visit the child at all, according to people in daily contact with the family.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/asylum-seeker-mother-kept-from-newborn-baby-in...

[*crikey*mate*]

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@polksaladallie wrote:

This precious baby is now "home" with his mother and father.

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so it was just a few days? a week including the 4 days in which the mother was a aptient at the hospital?

[*crikey*mate*]

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@polksaladallie wrote:

This precious baby is now "home" with his mother and father.

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I meant to say, that is a really good thing. Glad bubs is well enough to finally go hoe with his mum and family.

[*crikey*mate*]

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@polksaladallie wrote:

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@azureline** wrote:

The Mater NICU, I guess they think bonding is important?

If your baby is born very premature, is sick or requires close observation, they will be admitted to the Neonatal Critical Care Unit where they will receive specialised medical and nursing care.

This unit consists of intensive care and special care nurseries and is situated on level 6 of Mater Mothers’.

Throughout your baby's stay any treatment required will be explained to you.

You will be encouraged to be involved in your baby's care wherever possible as this helps to establish and strengthen your bond with them.

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Even in ICU this contact is encouraged.  But the baby we are discussing wouldn't have been in ICU, (there are different levels of care nurseries) so there would be no reason to prevent the mother from being there, except political cruelty.

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practicality and no presestablished guidelines.

It happened a week ago, the politics probably didn't even have time to become apraised of the situation in order to make the necessary arrangements to actually do something even if that was their intent.

[polksaladallie]

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@my*mum wrote:

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@azureline** wrote:

The Mater NICU, I guess they think bonding is important?

If your baby is born very premature, is sick or requires close observation, they will be admitted to the Neonatal Critical Care Unit where they will receive specialised medical and nursing care.

This unit consists of intensive care and special care nurseries and is situated on level 6 of Mater Mothers’.

Throughout your baby's stay any treatment required will be explained to you.

You will be encouraged to be involved in your baby's care wherever possible as this helps to establish and strengthen your bond with them.

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I bet it's all trumped up emotive rhetoric to get the mother to take over what staff used to do in order to minimize staff costs. it also helps shorten admission times as mum gets comfortable more quickly with doing what needs to be done for bubs.

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   You would be joking?   Have you ever been near a NICU?     

[*crikey*mate*]

just twice

[polksaladallie]

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@my*mum wrote:

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It happened a week ago, the politics probably didn't even have time to become apraised of the situation in order to make the necessary arrangements to actually do something even if that was their intent.

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But they did.

[*crikey*mate*]

they did what? Have time? A whole week? I don't think the red tape even works that fast when it is an entire country or state at risk/in turmoil.

oh, and my comment about the Mater's position on bonding (and all hospitals) was actually intended generally, and no doubt included in their INCU blurb to reassure mothers who are very focused on the alleged importance of instant bonding that they won't miss out either.

Politics? It's all health care politics.

I'm ot saying that bonding isn't important (I don't know, and no one has been able to tell me why it is so essential in the firat week of life) but I do not believe the ramifications can be called "appalling" etc. and that midwife's comments in the article are pure emotional hysterics.

[azureline**]

There was no good reason not to allow his mum to be there or his family to visit. Not one. Baby was released yesterday I believe.

[polksaladallie]

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@my*mum wrote:

they did what? Have time? A whole week? I don't think the red tape even works that fast when it is an entire country or state at risk/in turmoil.

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http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/asylum-seeker-mother-kept-from-newborn-baby-in...

[*elizabeths-mum*]

Oh polksaladallie you brightened my morning. 😄
Obviously my mention of a child in a mh unit was an example of when a parents rights don't reign over the welfare of the child, however for your further point, there are and have been and will be many babies in mental health units. Mothers suffering pnd or pnp often are admitted with bubby who as a minor under the age of 18 is nursed 1:1 for the safety of the child and depending on the mothers mental state may spend significant amounts of time away from her but still in the unit. If the situation requires, the child will be sent home with family, to special care nursery or foster care, whichever is the most appropriate. Unfortunately confidentiality doesn't allow me to 'name one'.