The Appalling Asylum Seeker Conditions

[azureline**]

This is disgraceful and I can only hope the people who are in charge fix this asap.

An asylum seeker who was moved off Nauru to give birth is being locked up for 18 hours a day in a detention centre in Brisbane while her week-old baby remains in hospital with respiratory problems.

The case of Latifa, a 31-year-old woman of the persecuted Rohingya people of Myanmar, has shocked churches and refugee advocates.

She was separated from her baby on Sunday, four days after a caesarean delivery, and has since been allowed to visit him only between 10am and 4pm in Brisbane's Mater Hospital. The boy, named Farus, has respiratory problems and needs round-the-clock medical care.

Latifa is confined to the Brisbane Immigration Transit Accommodation, 20 minutes away, where her husband and two children, four and seven, are being held.

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Latifa's husband, Niza, is not allowed to visit the child at all, according to people in daily contact with the family.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/asylum-seeker-mother-kept-from-newborn-baby-in...

[*elizabeths-mum*]

There was one good reason, azure. The mother was in detention.

[*crikey*mate*]

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@polksaladallie wrote:

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@my*mum wrote:

they did what? Have time? A whole week? I don't think the red tape even works that fast when it is an entire country or state at risk/in turmoil.

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http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/asylum-seeker-mother-kept-from-newborn-baby-in...

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yes, I read the article, the entire hospitilization lasted 8 days, the first 4 of which the mother was also a patient and at that hospital.

I'm not saying what's happened is great, but you have to give people a chance to implement procedures. 4 days is not enough time.

This is the first time this has happened in Australia.

That child got more care than two of mine did under the public system. They didn't even "waste the resources" for my second born. and whilst not neonatal, the public system turned my daughter away when she was fighting for her life - 5 years ago.

The baby and mother had access to good medical care under atypical circumstances. and effort was made to get the mother 6 hours of access a day whilst the baby remained in hospital.

The hospital is exactly that, a hospital, not a boarding house. Not somewhere for people who aren't patients to stay. I'm pretty sure that no mother, once discharged is able to stay at the hospital 24/7 with their new born.

In this case there are also the logistics of guarding the mother (Her and her partner are both detention centre residents) and maintaining access for her to food and showers etc. This isn't given to any parent whose child remains in hospital after the mother has been discharged. It's up to them to get their meals, clothes, hygiene etc, the hospital doesn't provide that - not for any one. This was provided for her however, at her "home".

[azureline**]

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@my*mum wrote:

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@polksaladallie wrote:

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@my*mum wrote:

they did what? Have time? A whole week? I don't think the red tape even works that fast when it is an entire country or state at risk/in turmoil.

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http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/asylum-seeker-mother-kept-from-newborn-baby-in...

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yes, I read the article, the entire hospitilization lasted 8 days, the first 4 of which the mother was also a patient and at that hospital.

I'm not saying what's happened is great, but you have to give people a chance to implement procedures. 4 days is not enough time.

This is the first time this has happened in Australia.

That child got more care than two of mine did under the public system. They didn't even "waste the resources" for my second born. and whilst not neonatal, the public system turned my daughter away when she was fighting for her life - 5 years ago.

 totally irrelevant

The baby and mother had access to good medical care under atypical circumstances. and effort was made to get the mother 6 hours of access a day whilst the baby remained in hospital.

 not enough according to some medical staff

The hospital is exactly that, a hospital, not a boarding house. Not somewhere for people who aren't patients to stay. I'm pretty sure that no mother, once discharged is able to stay at the hospital 24/7 with their new born.

 incorrect

In this case there are also the logistics of guarding the mother (Her and her partner are both detention centre residents) and maintaining access for her to food and showers etc. This isn't given to any parent whose child remains in hospital after the mother has been discharged. It's up to them to get their meals, clothes, hygiene etc, the hospital doesn't provide that - not for any one. This was provided for her however, at her "home".

They did for 4 days, they could do it for 8, the hospital has the facilities for this.

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[*crikey*mate*]

"Appalling Assylum Seeker Conditions"? "locked up" in detention 20 minutes away"?

Brisbane Immigration Transit Accommodation

The Brisbane Immigration Transit Accommodation (BITA) is a low security centre designed to provide “motel style” short-term accommodation to persons with minor immigration and visa breaches.

BITA provides 30 beds in double rooms with some rooms being inter-leading pairs able to accommodate families and extended families. Each unit has its own living area, with lounge, dining, kitchenette and laundry facilities, allowing for discrete cultural separation. Facilities for people with disabilities are also provided.

The central building houses two zones: the first, a central kitchen, laundry, dining and lounge with Internet and recreational facilities for the clients, while the second provides administrative functions such as reception, visiting, security control, administrative offices, immigration processing and medical facilities.

[*crikey*mate*]

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@azureline** wrote:

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@my*mum wrote:

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@polksaladallie wrote:

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@my*mum wrote:

they did what? Have time? A whole week? I don't think the red tape even works that fast when it is an entire country or state at risk/in turmoil.

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http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/asylum-seeker-mother-kept-from-newborn-baby-in...

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yes, I read the article, the entire hospitilization lasted 8 days, the first 4 of which the mother was also a patient and at that hospital.

I'm not saying what's happened is great, but you have to give people a chance to implement procedures. 4 days is not enough time.

This is the first time this has happened in Australia.

That child got more care than two of mine did under the public system. They didn't even "waste the resources" for my second born. and whilst not neonatal, the public system turned my daughter away when she was fighting for her life - 5 years ago.

 totally irrelevant - why is this irrelevant? Is my child deserving of less care than someone else's?

The baby and mother had access to good medical care under atypical circumstances. and effort was made to get the mother 6 hours of access a day whilst the baby remained in hospital.

 not enough according to some medical staff - not enough what?

The hospital is exactly that, a hospital, not a boarding house. Not somewhere for people who aren't patients to stay. I'm pretty sure that no mother, once discharged is able to stay at the hospital 24/7 with their new born.

 incorrect show me, it's not my experience.

In this case there are also the logistics of guarding the mother (Her and her partner are both detention centre residents) and maintaining access for her to food and showers etc. This isn't given to any parent whose child remains in hospital after the mother has been discharged. It's up to them to get their meals, clothes, hygiene etc, the hospital doesn't provide that - not for any one. This was provided for her however, at her "home".

They did for 4 days, they could do it for 8, the hospital has the facilities for this. They did it for 4 days whilst the mother was a patient. Once she was discharged, she was no longer a patient. How does a hospital have facilities for the detention of a refugee and the asssociated procedures and protocols?

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[izabsmiling]

my mum wrote: 

The baby and mother had access to good medical care under atypical circumstances. and effort was made to get the mother 6 hours of access a day whilst the baby remained in hospital.

The hospital is exactly that, a hospital, not a boarding house. Not somewhere for people who aren't patients to stay. I'm pretty sure that no mother, once discharged is able to stay at the hospital 24/7 with their new born.

Good medical care is Holistic.

What did the other parent  (& the siblings of that baby) get...and also get to give to that baby ? If he wasn't permitted to visit his baby why is that?

Would you think that 'good care' if that were you/your partner,your baby...your family ? I wouldn't.I am not a mindless machine.I am human.They are too.

I could visit my child 24/7 in hospital in Australia.Parents are often  encouraged to stay with their sick child even at night.

Intensive care patients often have a family member there 24/7.

[izabsmiling]

minor immigration and visa breaches.

what would be the case if the parent/s were in jail for 'minor' breaches of our Law?

[ashjoma]

not much sympathy for illegals from me.

I have a friend working in a detention centre, he said we hear very little about what goes on, and what tactics these illegals use, and that we would all be horrified if we knew the true amount of money that goes into looking after them, and that they are very well provided for and do know all their 'rights' etc and how to get the maximum they can.

He said one of the latest tactics to try to get in the country permanently is a  pregnancy,  and that a very high percentage of the women were pregnant,  followed  by demands to have everything given to them for the baby because they know their 'rights'.

All a tactic to get in and stay.

[*crikey*mate*]

Accommodation

If required, first time parents and all parents of premature babies may stay with their baby (rooming-in) overnight for one night prior to discharge. Rooming-in helps you to become confident in caring for your baby while you are still in a supportive environment. Rooms are available in the postnatal units for this purpose. For further information please refer to Mater's brochure: Rooming-in.

If you do not live locally, assistance with booking accommodation may be provided by Mater's Accommodation Officer. Your local hospital may subsidise this cost.

Food and other things are included in that link as well.

[**meep**]

Wasn't the mother allowed to see the baby every day?  Transported to the hospital daily to be with the baby?  Only not allowed to stay overnight ?

Doctors at the hospital advise it is common practice for mothers not to stay overnight with babies in special care units due to bed restrictions.