@***super_nova*** wrote:
Refugee camps are not permanent solutions, and they do not qualify as destination for refugees, it suppose to be temporaly place while they are being processed. The rule that refugees lose their status once they reach "safe" country only means a country that is a signatory to the refugee convention. Malaysia or Indonesia, or any other country between here and the countries "boat" people are coming from are not considered "safe countries".
What you are saying that these people should give up their basic human rights and stay in the camp, where there is nothing; they cannot work, the kids get none or very rudimentary education, and therefore there is no future for them.
Yes, there are millions of displaced people around the world, and it will get worse, and some will end up in Australia. And it is the duty of our government to make sure they are treated in a decent way.
I know for a fact that there are at least 3 refugee camps in Thailand which provide an education to a year 12 standard. The adults can and do work and with help they are building a self sustainable community until such time that they can return to their own homes. (which many have accepted will never happen, so work hard to build their new community - but in the back of their minds and for their children, there is hope)
They are safe and have never had an air strike, unlike Darwin has....
I have already said that I was shocked by the conditions on Nauru, I never knew, and it is well known that i am a strong advocate for refugees and those who seek asylum.
In the context of this thread, I fail to see how this family have not been afforded decent treatment, especially considering they are as yet unprocessed and as such considered high risk and requiring relevant security.
We can only help to the best of our ability, even those that come to Australia. No, i don't believe that Nauru is the best we can do, I did expect better than that, as I said, there are Thai camps that seem much better - but then it is also cheaper to administer to the Thai camps than it is to Australian ones as the dollar goes a whole lot further there and those refugees are grateful for any help, for any improvement in their lifestyle, and most of all they are grateful to simply be safe and able to sleep at night in relative security. Whereas here, and the Australian attitude, it seems to be every one wants so much more.
The way I see it is we can help say 20 people with all the bells and whistles, or we can help hundreds, at least a little bit. at least make some improvements for a larger amount of people.
The family featured in this thread have received more than most, it may not have been perfect or ideal, but it was at least something. I cannot see how it can be considered that under the circumstances, they have not been treated decently.
Some people can go their whole lives and never really live for a single minute.
