The Quiet Australian

[icyfroth]

With the quiet Australians known for keeping their heads down and just getting on with their busy lives, it can often be hard to tell exactly what they’re thinking.

However, when they can speak anonymously, they are happy to vent - and one of the most popular places for them to do so is on the comment sections of online newspapers.

A perfect example is found at the bottom of the Daily Telegraph’s article titled:

‘Narrabri gas: Angus Taylor criticises Matt Kean – NSW Environment and Energy Minister Matt Kean has...

The article spoke about how Matt Kean said climate change was the ‘biggest challenge that will face our society and our economy in our lifetime’ and that gas was a ‘hugely expensive’ way of generating electricity – a complete contradiction of Federal Energy Minister Angus Taylor’s most recent policy prescriptions.

So, what did the humble Telegraph reader have to say about all this nonsense? Well 

lets take a quick look.

 ‘How the hell do the liberal party think Matt Kean is a good representative for us?’

‘How on earth does a green zealot hold the position of Energy Minister in a centre right Government? I cannot think of a more inappropriate portfolio appointment than Matt Kean’

‘This blokes in the wrong party’

‘This bloke Kean is either stupid or is being deliberately obtuse.
Wind & solar are only competitive because of huge subsidies and government mandates.
If the market was left to determine the best and cheapest energy without government interference I'll bet my back teeth coal & nuclear would be the choice.’

‘Out of step with his party and out of step with the public. How many times do we have to go to an election and vote these Greenies down before they respect our vote?’

That’s about right.

Poll after poll have shown that mainstream Australians are not suffering from ‘climate anxiety’ like billionaire Mike Cannon-Brookes, ‘scientist’ Tim Flannery and Mr Kean.

In fact, they have far more important things to worry about such as Australia’s increasing cost of living – a direct product of climate change hysteria undermining the efficiency and stability of what was our key industrial competitive advantage – cheap power.

Hence why last year JWS Research found in a survey of 1000 Australians that the most important issue...

• Cost of living
• Hospitals, healthcare and ageing
• Employment and wages

The environment and climate change came next.

The same survey found that on energy, 70% of Australians prioritise either energy affordability or e...

Can the people make it any clearer?

It is time Mr Kean focus on what his constituents want as opposed to what his fans on the left think – people who would probably never vote for the Coalition anyway.

One last ripper from a punter on the Tele yarn:

‘If this bloke is all about emission reductions well maybe he can fix the traffic problems in his electorate on New Line Road Dural where four lanes funnel into two.

This problem has been there all the time Kean has been the member and it is getting worse.

Maybe the minister could help fix problems in his own electorate first before saving the world seen through his eyes.

He (his party) may have got 52% of the primary vote in his electorate last election but I very much doubt this will happen next election.

Remember the NSW state LNP only needs to lose two seats in the lower house and then it would be a minority government.

https://www.advanceaustralia.org.au/this_bloke_is_in_the_wrong_party

Personally, I think those wind and solar farms are an abomination and an affront to nature.

[the_great_she_elephant]

Icyfroth wrote: "There aren't many options to recycle or trash turbine blades, and what options do exist are expensive, partly because the U.S. wind industry is so young.

But it won't always be young, will it? And as it grows older it will become cheaper.  Fossil fuels won't ever become cleaner. 

[peteepie]

With the quiet Australians known for keeping their heads down and just getting on with their busy lives, it can often be hard to tell exactly what they’re thinking.

Perhaps the kudos distributed in this thread will give you a clue.

[icyfroth]

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

Icyfroth wrote: "There aren't many options to recycle or trash turbine blades, and what options do exist are expensive, partly because the U.S. wind industry is so young.

But it won't always be young, will it? And as it grows older it will become cheaper.  Fossil fuels won't ever become cleaner. 

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"But it won't always be young, will it? And as it grows older it will become cheaper."

What makes you think that?
Once fossil fuels are phased and we become dependant on renewables like solar and windmills, manufacturers and energy providers can and will be able to name their price. And history shows that private enterprise is not charitable.

Thanks to modern technology, fossil fuels can indeed burn cleaner. Nuclear energy is also an alternative, and Australia exports it to other countries who use it for energy generation. Why don't we?

"Civilian nuclear power supplied 2,563 terawatt hours (TWh) of electricity in 2018, equivalent to about 10% of global electricity generation, and was the second largest low-carbon power source after hydroelectricity.[5][6] As of December 2019, there are 443 civilian fission reactors in the world, with a combined electrical capacity of 395 gigawatt (GW). There are also 56 nuclear power reactors under construction and 109 reactors planned, with a combined capacity of 60 GW and 120 GW, respectively.[7] The United States has the largest fleet of nuclear reactors, generating over 800 TWh zero-emissions electricity per year with an average capacity factor of 92%.[8] Most reactors under construction are generation III reactors in Asia.[9]

Nuclear power has one of the lowest levels of fatalities per unit of energy generated compared to other energy sources. Coal, petroleum, natural gas and hydroelectricity each have caused more fatalities per unit of energy due to air pollution and accidents.[10] Since its commercialization in the 1970s, nuclear power has prevented about 1.84 million air pollution-related deaths and the emission of about 64 billion tonnes of carbon dioxide equivalent that would have otherwise resulted from the burning of fossil fuels.[11]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power

Why not more Hydro-electric plants like the Snowy River Scheme?

The cost of hydroelectricity is relatively low, making it a competitive source of renewable electricity. The hydro station consumes no water, unlike coal or gas plants. The typical cost of electricity from a hydro station larger than 10 megawatts is 3 to 5 US cents per kilowatt hour.[2] With a dam and reservoir it is also a flexible source of electricity, since the amount produced by the station can be varied up or down very rapidly (as little as a few seconds) to adapt to changing energy demands. Once a hydroelectric complex is constructed, the project produces no direct waste, and it generally has a considerably lower output level of greenhouse gases than photovoltaic power plants and certainly fossil fuel powered energy plants 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroelectricity

[icyfroth]

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@peteepie wrote:

With the quiet Australians known for keeping their heads down and just getting on with their busy lives, it can often be hard to tell exactly what they’re thinking.

Perhaps the kudos distributed in this thread will give you a clue.

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They give me a clue, alright, as to the usual suspects and head in the sanders 

[repentatleisure1952]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@peteepie wrote:

With the quiet Australians known for keeping their heads down and just getting on with their busy lives, it can often be hard to tell exactly what they’re thinking.

Perhaps the kudos distributed in this thread will give you a clue.

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They give me a clue, alright, as to the usual suspects and head in the sanders 

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People actually look to see who has given a poster kudos???

How sad.

[sandypebbles]

Some people one even makes a copy and paste of the kudo givers list and posts it to prove some kind of point

That is ok though,cause it's them 

Shame ScoMo does'nt read here, he could share his little love affair with coal 

[tezza2844]

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@icyfroth wrote:

Personally, I think those wind and solar farms are an abomination and an affront to nature.

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[icyfroth]

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@tezza2844 wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

Personally, I think those wind and solar farms are an abomination and an affront to nature.

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Point taken.

That's when foreign mining corporations are given the licence for open cut mining and ripping up fertile farming land and wildlife habitat. Then export it overseas to fuel manufacturing of things like wind turbines, amongst other non-essentials.

[tezza2844]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@tezza2844 wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

Personally, I think those wind and solar farms are an abomination and an affront to nature.

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Point taken.

That's when foreign mining corporations are given the licence for open cut mining and ripping up fertile farming land and wildlife habitat. Then export it overseas to fuel manufacturing of things like wind turbines, amongst other non-essentials.

That's when foreign mining corporations are given the licence for open cut mining and ripping up fertile farming land and wildlife habitat.

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The biggest mining companies in Australia are:

• BHP Group.
• Rio Tinto.
• Fortescue Metals.
• Newcrest Mining.
• South32.
• Evolution Mining.

Are all these foreign owned   ????????

[the_great_she_elephant]

https://www.kalgoorliehistory.org.au/goldfields-history/super-pit/

100% Australian owned.