The Revolution Will Not Be Pasteurized

[softail-joanie]

Raw milk freedom riders- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT4CRNFaNHk

Why not to pasturize- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzx2dY6mW5A

In 1987 the FDA banned interstate shipping of raw milk and today it's retail sale is only legal in dozen or so states. There's a very devoted group who believe that pasteurized milk is "dead milk" and are fighting to make it easier to buy. Raw milk has such a following that people form secret clubs or buy portions of a cow in order to circumvent state laws regulating its sale.

In March of 2010, Idaho made things just a bit easier for producers of raw milk. A small-herd exemption was passed that allowed farmers with 7 or fewer goats or sheep and 3 or fewer cows to produce raw milk or raw milk products for human consumption.

[***super_nova***]

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@softail-joanie wrote:

I do a search, watch maybe 12 videos, choose 2 or 3 of the most insightfull to post that fits along the lines of the current discussion within the topic.

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Very insightful when the farmer says "raw milk has chlorine in it, which we need for healthy bones" !  LOL

And we should not forget that the main reason for pasteurisation was bovine tuberculosis, and other nasty zoonotic diseases. 

[outdoorhunting1]

And the rest.

TB was just one of many.  tuberculosis, brucellosis, diphtheria, scarlet fever, and Q-fever;

It also kills the harmful bacteria Salmonella, Listeria, Staphy and Ecoli

When a farmer drinks it, it's close to the source and fresh. But then if you have to keep it and transport it and store it,

the situation becomes more dangerous since the bugs already exist in it, it doesn't even need to be contaminated.

a=And with everyone being so **bleep** weak now, it's no wonder people might get sick.

[softail-joanie]

Given the choice of raw milk, fresh and carefully harvested, or diet Coke with the artificial sweetner "aspertiane" it's no contest. to me anyway, aspertiane causes brain cancer and countless people drink it everyday, some of the bactera that gets killed durring pasturazion, is benificial.

Someone mentioned bugs, I doubt any would be found in fresh properly harvested raw milk, but heres a documentary that says eating bugs gives you 7 times the protene than ground beef.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eym4PwHmUvI

I think it was in one of my "documentary discussions"

I agree that it requiers more care (raw milk) and it probibly should be avoided for children (other thatn that wit comes from their own mother) but for consenting adults, I say make it legal to sell and use. We need choices in life. thats a good thing.

[aps1080]

joanie

Salmonella, Listeria, Staphy and Ecoli are not good for you in any form.

And although you are LESS likely to get TB* and scarlet fever now from raw cows milk, brucellosis, diphtheria and Q-fever

I think are still around. I know Q fever is as I am wary of it since I have my hands inside animals and that is one way of catching it.

 * Cows with TB are destroyed, as are herds.

[softail-joanie]

joanie Salmonella, Listeria, Staphy and Ecoli are not good for you in any form. And although you are LESS likely to get TB* and scarlet fever now from raw cows milk, brucellosis, diphtheria and Q-fever I think are still around. I know Q fever is as I am wary of it since I have my hands inside animals and that is one way of catching it. Cows with TB are destroyed, as are herds.

Cancer rates have exploded since the introduction of GMOs, MSGs, aspertaine, floruide, into our food and water. Most of my family get cancer and die before 65 and they all smoke. these things are not being rooted out by our food regulatory agencys. No, they go after raw milk being drank by those who know the risks and seem so be more healthy than those who don't drink it. I'll probibly die of cancer from someones second hand smoke, or from whatever questionable ingredients are in the food I eat before I get the chance to try raw milk.

I'm not a healthy eater, i don't live healthy, really can't aford to at this time in my life. I went of the Pepsi for 3 years, but started back on it again when somethings happened that made me not care if i live or die. I just follow this issue or any issue that seems to have corruption sourrounding it. I guess I see it as more news worthy than what popular actress is humilitated in public or who the president is sleeping with.

[***super_nova***]

To compare milk with coke is just too funny.  I personally never drink soft drinks, I do not like them.  I never gave them to our kids.  And healthy food, that is unprocessed food, like fresh veg and fruit, is not more expensive than junk food.  Actually, it is mostly cheaper to eat healthy food.  Unpasteurised milk just does not come into it.

I did my family tree and went right through records of death from 19th century, some times there were page after page of babies and very young children, with the occasional granny here and there.  Some died from now preventable children diseases, but many died from gastro.  People often had 10 kids and lost more than 1/2 in the first few years of their life.  I suppose the nutters who, I bet, also do not vaccinate, would like to go back to those times. 

[aps1080]

To compare milk with coke is just too funny.


Agree, i had a quiet chuckle over joanies post.


Agree re fresh food, if you pick the specials like today, bananas for 99 cents, broccoli a $1.

I try to stay off soft drinks, once i start i tend to keep going.

[k0llectable5]

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@aps1080 wrote:
To compare milk with coke is just too funny.


Agree, i had a quiet chuckle over joanies post.


Agree re fresh food, if you pick the specials like today, bananas for 99 cents, broccoli a $1.

I try to stay off soft drinks, once i start i tend to keep going.

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I think you both may have misunderstood why she made such a bizarre comparison there. (And not to speak for Joanie or put words in her mouth) 

The comparison makes sense to me.  It's a bit like how could raw milk be any worse for you than drinking diet coke or pepsi max or similar soda drinks?  For example some people will fear about the "pathogens" that can be found in raw milk and that can be harmful if the milk is left in the wrong "temperature zone" (above 5 degrees celcius)  which will allow these bugs to muliply at alarming rates and contaminate the milk, but they'll happily guzzle down "sugar free" drinks because they think it's somehow "healthier" 

[2106greencat]

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aps1080 wrote:
To compare milk with coke is just too funny.

What I can't get over is that where I live in Qld you can pay $3.80 for a 2ltr of full cream milk (more for some of the special types) and yet a 2ltr of coke is more often than not on special for $2.50 often even less.

[k0llectable5]

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@2106greencat wrote:

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@aps1080 wrote:
To compare milk with coke is just too funny.

What I can't get over is that where I live in Qld you can pay $3.80 for a 2ltr of full cream milk (more for some of the special types) and yet a 2ltr of coke is more often than not on special for $2.50 often even less.

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It's kinda understandable to me.  Think of the amount of work it has taken to produce 2 litres of milk compared with producing 2 litres of coke.