The gender card again...

[catsnknots]

Sorry to interrupt your no politics idea  but I still find the subject important and want to rant... 

How dare Gillard make abortion an election issue... There is no way that is acceptable and to even suggest that the Coalition will remove your right to one is scare mongering to the max. 

In this modern day time it is incredibly important that we don't use these topics to inflame a false war. 

Even if a person in any party did not like the idea of abortion there is no way that they would get the support to make it illegal. Or limit your access to one... or even make you feel bad for having one. 

So if Gillard wants to launch a campaign called "Labor Women for Gillard" then fine... but don't pull out the gender card and make something out of nothing.. 

And personally I find it sexist to have a women's only group calling for women to support Gillard. 

I have two sons and I also want their future to be positive and not forgotten but it seems that this PM only want to think of the future of women. 

[newstart2380]

I'll make a start .Tony Abbott quotes on women

 ‘The problem with the Australian practice of abortion is that an objectively grave matter has been reduced to a question of the mother’s convenience.’

I think it would be folly to expect that women will ever dominate or even approach equal representation in a large number of areas simply because their aptitudes, abilities and interests are different for physiological reasons’

I think there does need to be give and take on both sides, and this idea that sex is kind of a woman’s right to absolutely withhold, just as the idea that sex is a man’s right to demand I think they are both they both need to be moderated, so to speak’

 ‘What the housewives of Australia need to understand as they do the ironing is that if they get it done commercially it’s going to go up in price and their own power bills when they switch the iron on are going to go up, every year…’

Thanks that is a start but I find nothing in any of these quotes that is not true even if you don't agree.

[izabsmiling]

OK so it's more of a case that you personally don't see or you accept it ?

 .. rather than that it being the case that it doesn't exist 

”I think if the Government was a bit more experienced in this area, they wouldn’t come out with glib lines like that.”

this referring to the Governments plan to reduce the baby bonus.In this area = having children.A female PM needs to have children in order to make budgetary decisions concerning babies?

At the time Penny Wong had just become a new Mum  and both the treasurer and the finance minister have children.JG not having children ...seen by TA as a problem.

[izabsmiling]

He told her to make an honest women of herself .

[newstart2380]

OK so it's more of a case that you personally don't see or you accept it ?

 .. rather than that it being the case that it doesn't exist 

”I think if the Government was a bit more experienced in this area, they wouldn’t come out with glib lines like that.”

this referring to the Governments plan to reduce the baby bonus.In this area = having children.A female PM needs to have children in order to make budgetary decisions concerning babies?

At the time Penny Wong had just become a new Mum  and both the treasurer and the finance minister have children.JG not having children ...seen by TA as a problem.

Has TA actually said he sees JG as not having children a problem ?

Would being a parent help make decisions about running the country ? I think we all read what we want to read into any remarks politicians make. I agree that he sometimes suffers from the "ol foot in mouth" syndrome.

JG choice not to have children for what ever reason is her business and no one else's, many career women choose not to have a family and it should never be politicized.

[newstart2380]

He told her to make an honest women of herself .

has this been documented ?

[izabsmiling]

yes it has been NS.

I don't suppose that you have read ?

Her Rights at Work ,through the looking glass 

[newstart2380]

yes it has been NS.

I don't suppose that you have read ?

Her Rights at Work ,through the looking glass 

No I haven't but would love to read the passage where he is quoted as making that statement towards the PM.

[izabsmiling]

that was written by Anne Summers..it contains some of the stuff that has been out there regarding our Prime Minister ..

Due to that and the rating I can't add that here.

re the make an honest women of yourself ...

he did add the words 'politically speaking'

search and you will find 

[catsnknots]

The day Gillard made her misogyny  speech against Tony Abbott legislation was being passed to put tens of thousands of women with children below the poverty line. 

If Gillard really did care about the fate of women and treating them with respect then she would not have done that too them. 

[newstart2380]

The day Gillard made her misogyny  speech against Tony Abbott legislation was being passed to put tens of thousands of women with children below the poverty line. 

If Gillard really did care about the fate of women and treating them with respect then she would not have done that too them. 

Julia Gillard cares only about one person Julia Gillard, she has no respect for anyone but herself, she is a self centred bitter person who will end up a very lonely old person but that is the choice one makes when one chooses not to have family.